Jim Barry Posted August 5 Author Posted August 5 (edited) Ok, just about done now. A few more details to do: Antennae Cutting out control surfaces Rivets and misc surface vents Did you know this was one of the first planes with retractable landing gear? Edited August 5 by Jim Barry patricksparks, Hubert Boillot, LSP_Kevin and 3 others 6
Hubert Boillot Posted August 5 Posted August 5 (edited) Jiminy Cricket again … Dare I say that the thottles (the two central levers on the pedestal) should be « down » and not in « full » position, for an aircraft on the ground ? Only the French did it the way you have shown 😉 About the Model 12. It was the first design a young Lockheed engineer was involved into. He authored and signed the manual for the Electra Junior. He then continued with the « Fourteen » ( 🥰) the 18, the L-749 ( 🥰🥰🥰). 25 years after the -12 he authored the F-104, and a few years later the A-12. His name was Clarence Kelly Johnson … Hubert PS : two walkarounds, with, notably, nice details of the landing gear https://ipms.nl/walkarounds/walkaround-vliegtuigen-props/walk-around-lockheed-model-12-electra-junior https://www.net-maquettes.com/fr/pictures/lockheed-electra-12/ And Alamy pictures https://www.alamyimages.fr/photos-images/lockheed-electra-12a.html?sortBy=relevant Edited August 5 by Hubert Boillot
Jim Barry Posted August 5 Author Posted August 5 Kelly Johnson... aka The Man I only did the levers there as seen in the photo you shared (bottom pic). Certainly museum aircraft many have their throttles and levers in all kinds of positions since the plane is likely unflyable in many cases, so photos can be misleading. Flying planes do not park with the throttes open, that is true! (their mix and pitch could be anything but not sure about that) At any rate, this is not parametric modeling so editing is a pain and I have already done a lot to get where we are. Other photos have levers in all kinds of positions but the center ones are not always back. I do not think there is a huge issue here and not that difficult for the model builder to snip and relocate as desired. I'm personally far from being a cockpit guy so I'm not really near my interest zone, but will try to make this an appealing model generally. Mal_Belford, Hubert Boillot, Sasha As and 1 other 4
Hubert Boillot Posted August 5 Posted August 5 (edited) You’re absolutely right. It’s honestly a non-starter issue for most but the worst nitpickers. i should have made my tongue-in-cheek intent clearer 🤦♂️ Hubert Edited August 5 by Hubert Boillot CODY 1
Jim Barry Posted August 5 Author Posted August 5 I fell for it! That on me, but the accuracy call is a boundless question and insane is the game. CODY 1
Breaker Posted August 5 Posted August 5 I've always thought this is one of the most beautiful aircraft ever made, especially with a photo that lives in my head of it in polished bare metal at sunset. I'll be having one of these when they're available! mozart, Hubert Boillot and Jim Barry 3
Jim Barry Posted August 5 Author Posted August 5 (edited) Breaker, Yes, It'll be a real win were someone to get that polished look on this. I'm not sure where we are with that finish in scale model paint world ,but it's a holy grail as I recall. Chrome may be a paint now?? It's a pen as far as I know. I've foiled a 1/24 Fury biplane nose. but gee not sure I could do this monster (and be sane after) If you DM me (email name etc) I'll put you on the list. It's not long but it's good to get a place and it's free! I have not yet officially priced it but it's more than $200 at LSP scales and not much less at smaller scales. Progress with detail work. I'm not going to be bragging about the wheel wells here but I think it's fine (cue Hubert scanning the internet for wheel well errors ha) . The struts are nice enough and can be dressed up with wire for sure. They are built for strength I can tell you that much. Secret: The strut actually goes into the top of the tire but the fender hides it. Added vents behind the engine which were medium difficult. Edited August 5 by Jim Barry geedubelyer, CODY, patricksparks and 2 others 5
Hubert Boillot Posted August 5 Posted August 5 (edited) Now, Jim, if you challenge Jiminy Cricket … 😂 The answer is I have no idea of the wheel wells configuration … BUT I would take a cue into the Lockheed’s next model, the 14, aka Hudson in war guise … (the pics are not mine, but from the various walkarounds of the Hudson Mk III) Hubert Edited August 5 by Hubert Boillot CODY 1
Jim Barry Posted August 5 Author Posted August 5 Yeah. Not happening. That’s a kit level I’ll get to someday though, I promise. Test printing going great! Hubert Boillot, Mal_Belford, LSP_Kevin and 5 others 8
Out2gtcha Posted August 5 Posted August 5 Very cool!! Totally reminds me of the large RC Beechcraft 18/RC-45J I just picked up. Jim Barry 1
Jim Barry Posted August 6 Author Posted August 6 Yeah interesting how much more Beechcraft got out its 30’s twin engine passenger plane but I’m reading that Lockheed basically moved on to bigger things (lightning, hudson, constellation, electra 4 engine) while Beechcraft just kept on cranking out the tried and true. Anyone want to guess what plane killed Lockheed as a stand alone co? we will want to see your Beechcraft flying so don’t forget us. CODY 1
Cicchino Posted August 6 Posted August 6 12 hours ago, Jim Barry said: Yeah. Not happening. That’s a kit level I’ll get to someday though, I promise. Jim, don't sell yourself short, you are well on your way if those engines are any indication! The 3d design journey is a challenging but rewarding one as I'm learning, although I'm quite a few paces behind you on that road. Keep it up! regards John Jim Barry 1
Daniel Iscold Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Are you planing to sell the files or the parts as a kit???? Great work by the way Jim Jim Barry 1
Jim Barry Posted August 6 Author Posted August 6 21 minutes ago, Cicchino said: Jim, don't sell yourself short, you are well on your way if those engines are any indication! The 3d design journey is a challenging but rewarding one as I'm learning, although I'm quite a few paces behind you on that road. Keep it up! regards John Thanks John, I must admit the engines are a product of photo conversion to 3D file which is not difficult really. So what you see is not my true skill. The interior of a landing gear bay, especially this one, does not do well as a simple photo to 3D object. Tbh, I think what I did parametric cad wise is going to be attractive and accurate, but fall short of stunning with rows of rivets etc on interior panels , etc. I will say though the customer should be happy with the cut out shape of the opening because I did work hard to get that perfect. I might go a little further and give the roof of the bay the rows of cylinder look from Hubert’s picture he shared. Keep up the good 3D work. It can be frustrating when you don’t have all the capabilities under your belt , but keep challenging yourself to learn the software and you will have the ultimate Lego set!
Jim Barry Posted August 6 Author Posted August 6 39 minutes ago, Daniel Iscold said: Are you planing to sell the files or the parts as a kit???? Great work by the way Jim Hi Daniel, Thank you. This is kit only. The files are possibly for sale on a limited basis to people I trust would not in turn print multiple copies for their own profit. I know there is personal use licensing but that’s not the strongest security. If someone has posted a few WIP here, they would probably be vetted in that way.
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