Eduard 1/32 P-51B/C Birdcage for October release

[Johnny Cloud]

This does not explain why Eduard charges their American customers about $55 more than they do others around the world.

This is before any tax or shipping cost is added.

[drsquid142]

4 minutes ago, Johnny Cloud said:

This does not explain why Eduard charges their American customers about $55 more than they do others around the world.

This is before any tax or shipping cost is added.

It's $165 USD everywhere in the world except Europe & the UK. Eduard told me that is the "rest of world" price.

[CRAZY IVAN5]

13 minutes ago, drsquid142 said:

It's $165 USD everywhere in the world except Europe & the UK. Eduard told me that is the "rest of world" price.

Well, this may back fire on them, the ROW is a pretty big market overall. Hmm, when is Z-M due to release their B/C?

[drsquid142]

4 minutes ago, CRAZY IVAN5 said:

Well, this may back fire on them, the ROW is a pretty big market overall. Hmm, when is Z-M due to release their B/C?

Well the did say exactly "Canada, USA, South America, and Australia" so perhaps Asia, Africa, and the Middle East will have a another price too?

[CRAZY IVAN5]

3 minutes ago, drsquid142 said:

Well the did say exactly "Canada, USA, South America, and Australia" so perhaps Asia, Africa, and the Middle East will have a another price too?

That wouldn't surprise me, I don't live in any of those other places, so it's purely academic. You have to wonder[ well, I do] what's REALLY behind the pricing. I'll wait and see how this shakes out , still may wait for Z-M.

[quang]

1 hour ago, drsquid142 said:

Well the did say exactly "Canada, USA, South America, and Australia" so perhaps Asia, Africa, and the Middle East will have a another price too?

Remember the blessed times when goods and prices were for ‘USA and Canada only’?
At least now we suddenly realize what commercial alliances are for. 😇

[Dpgsbody55]

2 hours ago, drsquid142 said:

It's $165 USD everywhere in the world except Europe & the UK. Eduard told me that is the "rest of world" price.

 

That would be fine if it included postage, which it doesn't best I can see.  Australia now has a free trade agreement with Europe, so shouldn't this country be a part of their Europe pricing??  

 

That price, plus postage rules it out for me.  Eduard puzzle me at times.  They seem to want to do 1/32 scale kits, then sabotage their sales with things like this, then whinge about no sales and back out of the scale.  

 

I'll wait for the Z-M kit, unless I can get this at a decent price.

 

 

Cheers,

Michael

[CRAZY IVAN5]

37 minutes ago, Dpgsbody55 said:

 

That would be fine if it included postage, which it doesn't best I can see.  Australia now has a free trade agreement with Europe, so shouldn't this country be a part of their Europe pricing??  

 

That price, plus postage rules it out for me.  Eduard puzzle me at times.  They seem to want to do 1/32 scale kits, then sabotage their sales with things like this, then whinge about no sales and back out of the scale.  

 

I'll wait for the Z-M kit, unless I can get this at a decent price.

 

 

Cheers,

Michael

Amen brother! Something tastes "off" with their pricing. I've got my suspicions but I'll hold my tongue for the moment, afterall it's just a plastic model plane.

[thierry laurent]

 

I think that producers are indeed impacted by the decrease of overseas sales. However we should not forget that except for Chinese brands most of them are considering their main customer base is in their region. The rest of the world was quite often a ́"nice to have" market. We know this has been typically the case of Japanese producers. The ones that will be probably more impacted are the ones that use to export very large quantities of kits to sell everywhere. However, even Revell kits are less and less available in brick and mortar shops. Typically you are getting them now from a handful of online local resellers as the customer base shrinked. Some producers have a fully different model and rely first on direct sales to enthusiasts (Kotare or DBMK). Others such as Eduard are in between. And finally you can see that China is releasing far less LSP for years. The main question is: if it becomes far more expensive to get foreign kits in the US, what will be the global impact on their sales? This worries me as this may impact the middle-long term release of more American topics (such as a good P-38!). When I discussed years ago the question of tariffs and taxes with some aftermarket producers the conclusion was always the same: they don’t like them as such as this obviously impact their sales but the worst is instability at that level! Some clearly said they globally increased their prices to avoid all the crazy side-effects linked to that situation and in some situations this even impacted their "local prices" to attenuate somewhat the difference with export prices! Useless to say that extreme case is the worst possible scenario as this negatively impacts everyone. I'm not saying Eduard did that but to me this is a possibility. What US modellers really need now is a rebirth of a domestic company focusing on American topics.

[Diz]

This is very good analysis.  And illustrates the differences in this "information" age, vs the past; you can't do much of anything these days without it being seen and commented on globally.  I work for Crossfire Australia as a prototype design guy.  I can tell you firsthand how this stuff goes.  When I first started, the company gave discounts to their local "Diggers" ordering kit, which gave heartburn to the North American customers.  I understand this, but at the same time, I don't appreciate it.  In the end, Thierry is spot on; if North Americans want a "good deal" they need someone to stand up a domestic manufacturer.  It's that simple and complex.   

All though I don't like it, I can understand why Eduard (and Tami) would take care of their local lads, and stick it to those damn foreigners, but it's also a big F-U aimed squarely at me.  So for sure, if someone else (cough...Kotare) comes out with a competing Mustang I would buy that instead.  So it's just a matter of whose Ox is getting gored here.  Only time will tell.  If you tell the North American market to get stuffed, very cheeky, but also very risky I would think.  So when you see threads, where someone asks "what would you pay for a Tami P-38", you get the obligatory response of "tree fiddy" from some.  That's the risk Eduard is taking here.

 

[BiggTim]

11 hours ago, thierry laurent said:

What US modellers really need now is a rebirth of a domestic company focusing on American topics.

 

From your lips to God's ears, my friend!! 

[Johnny Cloud]

I don't think model kit manufacturers are coming back to the US any time soon but I think it's only normal to expect the MSRP to be the same for all customers, wherever they may be.

[quang]

12 hours ago, thierry laurent said:

What US modellers really need now is a rebirth of a domestic company focusing on American topics.

In the mean time, we’ll have to make do with kitmakers from former republics of the Soviet Union. So it goes, folks!

[kalashnikov-47]

I expected the price to be what it is, but I think the concern expressed  is the shipping costs.  
I'll wait until I see what I can get it shipped from Hannants for, or barring that,

it's sure to show up at Sprue Bros. sooner or later.

[Kenneth Joy]

12 hours ago, Diz said:

This is very good analysis.  And illustrates the differences in this "information" age, vs the past; you can't do much of anything these days without it being seen and commented on globally.  I work for Crossfire Australia as a prototype design guy.  I can tell you firsthand how this stuff goes.  When I first started, the company gave discounts to their local "Diggers" ordering kit, which gave heartburn to the North American customers.  I understand this, but at the same time, I don't appreciate it.  In the end, Thierry is spot on; if North Americans want a "good deal" they need someone to stand up a domestic manufacturer.  It's that simple and complex.   

All though I don't like it, I can understand why Eduard (and Tami) would take care of their local lads, and stick it to those damn foreigners, but it's also a big F-U aimed squarely at me.  So for sure, if someone else (cough...Kotare) comes out with a competing Mustang I would buy that instead.  So it's just a matter of whose Ox is getting gored here.  Only time will tell.  If you tell the North American market to get stuffed, very cheeky, but also very risky I would think.  So when you see threads, where someone asks "what would you pay for a Tami P-38", you get the obligatory response of "tree fiddy" from some.  That's the risk Eduard is taking here.

 

Who's Ox is getting gored??? 🤣🤣🤣  Is that an Aussie saying?  I spit my beer out when I read that