Eduard 1/32 P-51B Birdcage for late September/October release, list price £79.99-ish

[nmayhew]

to those in the US, I would just say 'patience'

 

i would also like to highlight Thierry's comment some pages back that noted US modellers have had it great for the past couple of decades compared to many Euro modellers - and certainly UK modellers (even before Brexit) - because their international purchases escaped duties / other charges; I'm not saying this is your comeuppance, just asking for a small intake of breath and a sense of perspective 

 

it's a bit like the Kotare new releases... yeah you can pay retail on release, or wait a bit and get them significantly cheaper

 

i mean be honest, how many on here actually churn a kit out inside a couple of months anyway? 

 

i realise that doesn't make the P-51 appear any quicker on your desks, but just chill - it will get to you and no doubt at a reasonable price

 

[Kagemusha]

25 minutes ago, CRAZY IVAN5 said:

No I do not recall that. If true that's wrong . Who was responsible for only releasing it the states only ? Certainly not us builders, of that I'm reasonable sure. You can call it "moaning" or anything else you want.

 

It's just a typical marketing ploy, make a product exclusive, helps sales.

[nmayhew]

2 minutes ago, Kagemusha said:

 

It's just a typical marketing ploy, make a product exclusive, helps sales.

 

and give @quang opportunities to wind up our American friends lolol

 

[CRAZY IVAN5]

16 minutes ago, Kagemusha said:

 

It's just a typical marketing ploy, make a product exclusive, helps sales.

I get that and I can understand why. It also answers my question about who was in control of the distribution of their product. So what marketing ploy is this with the new -51B/C? I'm asking because I truly don't know. I can also understand Eduard helping out the folks in Europe I get that too. 

[CRAZY IVAN5]

29 minutes ago, nmayhew said:

 

and give @quang opportunities to wind up our American friends lolol

 

As far as getting wound up, nothing of the sort. All I want, along with anyone else who questions the price is an explanation of WHY. "Just because" isn't an answer, used to get that noise from my kids when they were young.

[Kagemusha]

29 minutes ago, CRAZY IVAN5 said:

I get that and I can understand why. It also answers my question about who was in control of the distribution of their product. So what marketing ploy is this with the new -51B/C? I'm asking because I truly don't know. I can also understand Eduard helping out the folks in Europe I get that too. 

 

I think it's from a purely commercial perspective, I don't think Eduard are favouring Europeans, it's just easier and cheaper to sell on your doorstep, when Wingnut Wings started out, easy to buy in New Zealand, also the US, free shipping, no additional costs, in the UK it was a nightmare, import charges were required, charges were added on to process those additional charges - Kafka's laughing somewhere - you had to visit the depot to pay and collect, there was no online option at the time, took a few days for the kit to travel halfway round the planet, and the internal process could take upto ten days, or longer.

[CRAZY IVAN5]

3 minutes ago, Kagemusha said:

 

I think it's from a purely commercial perspective, I don't think Eduard are favouring Europeans, it's just easier and cheaper to sell on your doorstep, when Wingnut Wings started out, easy to buy in New Zealand, also the US, free shipping, no additional costs, in the UK it was a nightmare, import charges were required, charges were added on to process those additional charges - Kafka's laughing somewhere - you had to visit the depot to pay and collect, there was no online option at the time, took a few days for the kit to travel halfway round the planet, and the internal process could take upto ten days, or longer.

I guess I'm being dense here[ been told that more than a few times]. It's the "purely commercial perspective " that I'm not getting.  I don't fault Eduard for favouring the European market . Heaven knows the builders there have been taking on the chin for a long time and they shouldn't have been. I do remember Wingnut Wings being pretty easy to get here. 

[Johnny Cloud]

Maybe you guys can help me figure this out: have there been other kits with drastically different MSRP's, according to region, before?

Not taxes or shipping fees, just the suggested retail price.

I don't think so but I honestly don't know.

[thierry laurent]

Too true Andy! Proportionally far less Wingnuts kits were sold in Europe than what would have occured if the prices were the same than in the rest of the world. Paying close to the double of the retail price of models produced overseas is something we have unfortunately been used too often since we started modelling! The ironic part is the fact close to all the aftermarket sets for Wingnuts kits were released...in Europe! Frankly I was happy and possibly a little bit jealous when I saw what our American friends could obtain! Now it looks we are in the same boat but alas this is not a cruise ship... The world is again changing and this even impacts our hobby! Last, personally, I stopped trying to understand the commercial policy of some companies years ago and clearly Eduard is one of them!

[DugyB]

Pretty sure here in Norge I pay 25% VAT on top of the cost, so anything arriving here gets jacked up well in price …. I’m still not sure on this kit … glad I’m on a sturdy fence.🫡

[csavaglio]

5 hours ago, Johnny Cloud said:

Maybe you guys can help me figure this out: have there been other kits with drastically different MSRP's, according to region, before?

Not taxes or shipping fees, just the suggested retail price.

I don't think so but I honestly don't know.

Yes. Older tamiya and hasegawa boxings have their home market msrp in Yen.  Hasegawa was particularly marked up in the US vs home market. Newer mold 190s were $25-30 in yen but double that for US msrp. The 9800Y on the side of my first issue p-51 works out to about 60 bucks now, but was closer to $80 with the exchange when they came out.  And that's full retail. Every Japanese manufacturer was similar. 

 

When I was going to Okinawa a couple times a year, I used to carry empty suitcases to bring kits back. 

 

It's more than the actual government charges. It's also logistics, having staff or hiring external companies in to deal with export paperwork etc. Everything that takes time, effort, knowledge, etc costs money

[reconspit]

I just preordered one for 89€ in Germany...!!!!🥰

[rafju]

All included: GLS, Paypal, fees, etc... 133.98€ to France

[quang]

35 minutes ago, rafju said:

All included: GLS, Paypal, fees, etc... 133.98€ to France

WOT? 😵‍💫

[Kagemusha]

There are more images of the build by Jan Baranec on the Eduard product page,