Laminar Flow Design - New Fw190D-11/D-13 Conversion?

[Tolga ULGUR]

2 hours ago, nmayhew said:

very excited about these D-11 and D-13 conversions!

+11

[Thunnus]

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- Test print #2 -

I reworked the rear in order to fit the Hasegawa fuselage. Lot of small mods but it’s paying off 

The assembly is taped from inside, it’s even closer when pressured a bit.

Next up a bit of mods in the bulges area, and the cowl flaps crown.

Cheers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Alain Gadbois]

Looks very good!

You know, I’m sure that the D-11 and D-13 had different propellers. And both were also used on the Ta-152.

[Juggernut]

This looks great....  I've read that the Fw190D-11 was armed with 2 x 20mm guns in the inboard part of the wings and 2 x 30mm (Mk 108) in the outboard part of the wings (like the Fw190A-8/R2).  Is this being addressed with this set as well?  I didn't see any mention of it but I may have missed it.  Did the Fw190D-11 also have a 30mm in the nose too?  This configuration sorting gets confusing after awhile... the D-13 had a 20mm in the nose???  Ugh....

 

I've also read (Aero Detail #2 on the Fw190D) that the correct prop for the Fw190D-11/13 is the VS10.  Is that a correct statement?  I'm confused because somewhere I also read these Fw190D's used the same propeller as the Ta-152 which was the VS9.... 

Edited May 13 by Juggernut

[Thunnus]

As far as I know, the D-11 and the D-13 both used the VS9 prop with slightly different blades.  The D-11 featured "clipped" prop blade tips, while the D-13 had the rounded tips. Both types of VS9 prop blades were used on the Ta-152H

 

D-11

 

D-13

 

 

Armament:

D-11: 2x20mm (MG151) in the wing roots and 2x30mm (MK108) at the outboard position, similar to the A-8/R-2

D-13: 2x20mm (MG151) in the wing roots and 1x20mm (MG151) through prop hub

 

[CRAZY IVAN5]

Well, this does look very nice indeed, gives me a reason to get another Hasegawa Dora, well, maybe 2 more! Any ideas on price points yet?

[Paul2660]

This is looking great!.  Let's get this on the market quick.  Great solution to a rare bird.   It would be a nice addition if some form of a template was included for the vertical cut into the D9 fuselage halves.  The cut  doesn't look like it follows a panel line which would make for an easy cut but I might be wrong.  

 

Really looking forward to a couple of these. 

 

Note to others, Quickboost sells a propeller for the D11, not sure on the D13.  Or I may have that backwards, but I know they sell a propeller for one of the two.  It's also too bad that Henri D's propellers are no longer available, (at least in the U.S.)

 

Paul 

[Thunnus]

2 hours ago, CRAZY IVAN5 said:

Well, this does look very nice indeed, gives me a reason to get another Hasegawa Dora, well, maybe 2 more! Any ideas on price points yet?

Mathieu has not mentioned any pricing at this point.  But for reference, the 1/32 Spitfire XIVe conversions, which also utilize a forward fuselage replacement, are priced at 83.49+8.99 euros or approximately $102.31 US.

 

 

1 hour ago, Paul2660 said:

This is looking great!.  Let's get this on the market quick.  Great solution to a rare bird.   It would be a nice addition if some form of a template was included for the vertical cut into the D9 fuselage halves.  The cut  doesn't look like it follows a panel line which would make for an easy cut but I might be wrong.  

 

Really looking forward to a couple of these. 

 

Note to others, Quickboost sells a propeller for the D11, not sure on the D13.  Or I may have that backwards, but I know they sell a propeller for one of the two.  It's also too bad that Henri D's propellers are no longer available, (at least in the U.S.)

 

Paul 

The proposed cut is on a panel line.  You can see that on the photo of the D-11 that I just posted. I have a copy of the Quickboost's D-11 spinner and prop so I can vouch for that one but I've not heard of a QB D-13 prop.  I've used Henri Daehne's magnificent props on many builds but as far as I know, he no longer produces them.  Mathieu is going to supply the appropriate spinner and VS9 prop blades with his conversions.

 

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And a quick one about test print #3

Pictures 1 to 4 are about #3 assembly with the kit. I added the front pins to insert the radiator with the 2 poly caps, this allow to mount the flaps and cowling around. The flaps will be upgraded, but having my parts and the kit fit permit the closed flaps assembly, and is safer for any potential further evolution.

Also added, rear mounting lips to ease assembly (more visible on pic5). They are subject to evolve when the firewall gets attention.

Pics 5 to 7 shows differences between #2 (left) and #3 (right with the front cowl)

A few sharp eyed had spotted it, and brought it forward (thank you mates)

I was concerned as well, but waited to have finished the fuselage mating before doing anything about it. Also I wanted to see how the bulges would look in flesh with print #2 to better assess were to cut fat.

Pictures 8 to 10 shows the new bulge. I mainly reduced the curvature at the top hinge, to have a flatter top junction.

Picture 11, looking straight to the hinge, in transparent blue, the #2 bulge curvature, put in perspective with the flatter #3.

Feedback welcome on the matter of course.

Cheers.

M

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with Mathieu or LFD.  Just a Dora nut passing along info since many of you don't have access to Facebook.

[Juggernut]

EDIT:  I posted this on the LFD Facebook page so no real need to attempt an answer here.   Let me ask this.... If the Fw190D-11 has 30mm outboard wing cannon, what, if anything, will be supplied with the nose conversion to accommodate the obvious leading edge, upper wing, and underwing panel differences vis-a-vis, the standard Fw190D-9 kit wing which has none of that?  The spinner and prop blades are a welcome addition...I won't have to steal the Henri Daehne VS9 prop from my "less-than-satisfactory" build of the ZM Ta152H-0.

 

LOL, I've got my eye on acquiring a copy of the 1/32 Hasegawa Fw190D-9 but before I pull the trigger, I'd like to know the full extent of the conversion for the D-11 (which is my preference over the D-13 simply for those 30mm wing cannon). I fancy a Papagei Staffel D-11....  I never really cared for the JV44 protection flight aircraft until this  conversion was announced.  It kind of grew on me after that but only the relatively few D-11's that were assigned to that unit.  I have a copy of Jerry Crandall's book Fighters of the Iron Cross and in there, he shows two D-11's and at least one he claimed is missing the 30mm guns.  I'm assuming, possibly to my detriment, that it still had the openings and distinctive panels for them, just not installed.

Edited May 14 by Juggernut

[Thunnus]

Since I am not Mathieu, I am only guessing regarding what will be included in the conversion but I assume that Mathieu will supply the outboard gun position for the D-11 in a similar manner to the Real Models D-11 and Montext D-11 conversions.

 

Real Model D-11

 

Montex D-11

 

The components for the outboard gun positions are: wing bottom inserts and wing top bulges (presumably copied from Hasegawa A-8 kit) and leading edge fairings.

 

 

As far as the D-11's serving in JV44, Vol.2 of Jerry Crandall's Dora books have a photo of Red 4 with the port upper wing bulge for the 30mm cannon and the color profiles of Red 4 show the outboard guns in place.

[Kagemusha]

I'm certain everything required will be included in the conversion.

[Juggernut]

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...the color profiles of Red 4 show the outboard guns in place.

 

He must've used the same profile in the Fighters of the Iron Cross book as it too has the profile of Red 4 with the 30mm cannon in place. However, the caption under the profile says "Newly discovered photos reveal there were no 30mm cannons installed in the wings." (pg. 357).... Pub date on Fighters of the Iron Cross is 2021.  I think the D-9 volume 1 and 2 books are just a tad bit older if I'm not mistaken; I don't have them so cannot confirm pub date.

 

After thinking on it and really not happy with the way the Ta152H-0 came out, I may indeed steal the HD VS9 from it and bin the rest...THEN! I'll have an excuse to buy another one so I can build it better (and know where all the tricky assembly points already are).

 

Hmmm.... The IPMS National Convention is coming up in the first part of August.  Maybe I can find a relatively inexpensive Hasegawa kit there. Ooooo....bonus!  Zoukei Mura will also be at the show and may have a copy or two of the Ta152H-0 kit...Oh, Christmas in August!

Edited May 14 by Juggernut

[John1]

Glad to hear he's going to be working on a cockpit enhancement as well. 

[Cycling Guy]

13 hours ago, John1 said:

Glad to hear he's going to be working on a cockpit enhancement as well. 

 

Thats great to hear. I'll definitely be buying this one.

[Modelboy]

I stole a pic off the interweb somewhere that does show that JV44 D11 on the starboard side. No outboard guns or fairings. Also no plane number,2 or 4 shown. It does have a crushed supercharger intake. If I had more than this dam phone I would show that pic. PS I  bought all the cheap ST19 kits and D11 crandalcals on ebay in anticipation of this so dont bother looking. Que evil laugh. 

Edited May 15 by Modelboy
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