Grunticus Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 (edited) I have set the Revell Tomcat aside for now as building that does not generate enough dopamine right now. After seeing a photo of it I wanted to build an Oman air force Hawk Mk166, their paint scheme is very nice I think! Different.. I already had the T.2 in my stash, so here goes. I have so far not been able to find a photo of one seen from above (or a Mk166 cockpit). I found this small image of a three-view that comes with a 1/72 decal set. If any of you have a better / bigger one I would be interested! Also as far as cockpit photos are concerned. The colors are way off though... This comes with the kit: Some goodies: The kit contains Kinetic's plastic as most will know, and includes photo-etch seen above. I also have an old T.1 stencil decal set, and I'm sure some of it can be used on a Mk166. Surface detail is good, and I like that there is raised detail as well. The first dry-fit was promising, the fuselage halves snapped together in a satisfying way. Some of the PE will surely add to realism: Thanks for looking, all for now! Cheers, Leon Edited January 5, 2025 by Grunticus MikeC, Landrotten Highlander, denders and 13 others 16
Shujaa Posted January 5, 2025 Posted January 5, 2025 WOW, what a nice surprise to start off 2025: A sweet desert-hawk...!!! And it look's like You are going to dress up this little lady with some nice goodies. It will surely be another nice WIP to follow. Kind regards, Rudy. P.S.: Best wishes for 2025 to all of You. Grunticus 1
Grunticus Posted February 2, 2025 Author Posted February 2, 2025 I have had little time for modelling lately, but I got going when I did. The Reskit seats are really nice, they are almost done. I think after adding the included decals and a matt coat they'll look great. Reskit's seats ar about 2mm taller that the kit's seats, and to accomodate the Reskit seats the tabs on the cockpit floor have to be removed, which I did. Both IP's are not accurate (even for a T,2?). Since I was not able to find photos of Omani IP's I just took an artistic licence and scraped off some detail to add a third (Airscale) MFD to the front and two to the back. Still not accurate, but they look better this way I think. Oh dear....not good for such a modern kit. That will require some extra work. The centerline fuel tank looks good. Too bad you don't get the two underwing-tanks which appear on almost every photo of an Omani Hawk. I searched for aftermarket but have not been able to find a set. Cheers! Leon MikeC, denders, TankBuster and 15 others 18
Shujaa Posted February 2, 2025 Posted February 2, 2025 Is nobody else interrested in this topic...??? Oh well, at least You have one member following... Looking good. The intakes surely makes one wonder about modern manufacturing... I'm sure You will be able to fix the issue. Kind regards, Rudy. P.S.: Although I have been lucky to fly along in the back-seat of a RAF Hawk, I will not be able to "assist" You with my "wisdom" throughout this build. All I can help You with is the fact that this little bugger is incredible fun to fly. Kagemusha and Grunticus 2
Grunticus Posted February 2, 2025 Author Posted February 2, 2025 4 minutes ago, Shujaa said: Is nobody else interrested in this topic...??? Oh well, at least You have one member following... Looking good. The intakes surely makes one wonder about modern manufacturing... I'm sure You will be able to fix the issue. Kind regards, Rudy. P.S.: Although I have been lucky to fly along in the back-seat of a RAF Hawk, I will not be able to "assist" You with my "wisdom" throughout this build. All I can help You with is the fact that this little bugger is incredible fun to fly. Wow Rudy that must have been fun! How was that like, where was it? You were more than helpful with the Revell F-4E, so no worries. It was mu best effort ever. I wil tackle the intakes, just wasn't expecting this much gap on a modern kit.
MikeC Posted February 2, 2025 Posted February 2, 2025 7 minutes ago, Shujaa said: Is nobody else interrested in this topic...??? I am, now I've found it. Stevepd and Grunticus 1 1
Shujaa Posted February 3, 2025 Posted February 3, 2025 (edited) 15 hours ago, Grunticus said: Wow Rudy that must have been fun! How was that like, where was it? You were more than helpful with the Revell F-4E, so no worries. It was mu best effort ever. I wil tackle the intakes, just wasn't expecting this much gap on a modern kit. That surely was a lot of fun. I'll tell You all about it via PM because I don't think the purpose of this forum is to pollute build-reports with memories long gone by. However, I did learn some interresting things about the RAF Hawk. For example, I was told that the bird tended to "side-slip" within the higher speed-region (without any pilot-input). I can tell You first hand that it did... This turned out to be the result of a design "flaw". Fun-fact: This "design-flaw" could have easily be remedied by attaching a 1ft long "fairing" at the tail-end of the bird... Looking at the first 2 pic's of Your report, I notice 2 "canards" just in front of the horizontal tail-planes. It makes me wonder... Could that "modification" eliminate the previous mentioned "side-slip" effect... Kind regards, Rudy. Edited February 3, 2025 by Shujaa typo Grunticus and MikeC 2
Derek B Posted February 3, 2025 Posted February 3, 2025 Looking good so far Leon - nice choice. The current Revell 1/32 Hawk T.mk.1A kit has a set, although I do not know if the length is correct? Derek Grunticus 1
Derek B Posted February 3, 2025 Posted February 3, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, Shujaa said: That surely was a lot of fun. I'll tell You all about it via PM because I don't think the purpose of this forum is to pollute build-reports with memories long gone by. However, I did learn some interresting things about the RAF Hawk. For example, I was told that the bird tended to "side-slip" within the higher speed-region (without any pilot-input). I can tell You first hand that it did... This turned out to be the result of a design "flaw". Fun-fact: This "design-flaw" could have easily be remedied by attaching a 1ft long "fairing" at the tail-end of the bird... Looking at the first 2 pic's of Your report, I notice 2 "canards" just in front of the horizontal tail-planes. It makes me wonder... Could that "modification" eliminate the previous mentioned "side-slip" effect... Kind regards, Rudy. Hi Rudy, The late 60 and 100 series of Hawk aircraft have powered rudders, so have yaw dampers installed to counter side slip, especially when weapons training. Those 'canards' are known as 'SMURFs' (Side Mounted Unit Root Fins), and are designed to create vortices at high angle of attack in order to energise the airflow around the elevators, thus making them more effective - they are not related to any side-slip issues. HTH Cheers Derek Edited February 3, 2025 by Derek B Grunticus 1
Biggles87 Posted February 3, 2025 Posted February 3, 2025 (edited) I’ve just found it too so you now have another follower. John Edited February 3, 2025 by Biggles87 Grunticus 1
Grunticus Posted February 3, 2025 Author Posted February 3, 2025 5 hours ago, Derek B said: Looking good so far Leon - nice choice. The current Revell 1/32 Hawk T.mk.1A kit has a set, although I do not know if the length is correct? Derek Thanks for this heads-up Derek. When comparing them to the ones in the photo at the top of this thread it appears they are similar, but with a blunt rear-tip. I will investigate if these are good candidates, with a slight alteration. Thanks! Derek B 1
Shujaa Posted February 3, 2025 Posted February 3, 2025 Look's like more people are tuning in Leon. But hey, no pressure my friend. Thank's for the additional info Derek. That's soo nice about the forum: people with knowledge always chip in and by doing so we all learn a little bit along the way. As for the Hawk: A lot of people might "look down" on this little trainer because it's not a fancy fighter but I'm telling You, it's a mighty sweet little "sports-car" to take for a spin !!! Besides, stick some boom-pod's and smoke-pipes on it and she will definately hold her own in a combat-situation. Most certainly not a bad choice for air forces that can not afford the more expensive fighters. Kind regards, Rudy. Stevepd, Kagemusha, Derek B and 1 other 4
MikeC Posted February 4, 2025 Posted February 4, 2025 (edited) On 2/2/2025 at 3:09 PM, Grunticus said: Both IP's are not accurate (even for a T,2?). I seem to remember reading somewhere that T2 instrument fit varied according to the operator, and a bit of research will show that each operator had a different model number. The kit panel is accurate for the Canadian option in the original kit. Edited February 4, 2025 by MikeC Grunticus and Derek B 2
Grunticus Posted February 4, 2025 Author Posted February 4, 2025 On 2/3/2025 at 1:07 PM, Shujaa said: That surely was a lot of fun. I'll tell You all about it via PM because I don't think the purpose of this forum is to pollute build-reports with memories long gone by. However, I did learn some interresting things about the RAF Hawk. For example, I was told that the bird tended to "side-slip" within the higher speed-region (without any pilot-input). I can tell You first hand that it did... This turned out to be the result of a design "flaw". Fun-fact: This "design-flaw" could have easily be remedied by attaching a 1ft long "fairing" at the tail-end of the bird... Looking at the first 2 pic's of Your report, I notice 2 "canards" just in front of the horizontal tail-planes. It makes me wonder... Could that "modification" eliminate the previous mentioned "side-slip" effect... Kind regards, Rudy. Rudy, I certainly don´t mind if you share your memories here, and I'm pretty positive no one would mind if you did! Stevepd, Derek B and MikeC 3
Stevepd Posted February 4, 2025 Posted February 4, 2025 (edited) I was also offered a backseat jolly in XX162(?) of the RAFCAM detachment at Boscombe Down. They had spare hours and seats to offer. I jumped at the chance. Went to get signed off by the SMO (military Doctor) but she wouldn't sign the fit to fly chit as I'd had double knee surgery. Absolutely gutted. I made them a 1/48 model on a base as a thanks for the offer though. Steve. Edited February 4, 2025 by Stevepd MikeC, Grunticus, Kagemusha and 1 other 2 2
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