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You can build an RAF Sabre, but it will have to be a hard-edge version. Most squadrons flew these but not all (26 Sqn for example). You'll also need to get rid of the raised intake/vent panel at the base of the fin extension and add the two small vents on the fuselage side. So yes - go for it!
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Amazing stuff out there on video now.
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Looks like a typical recruiting aid, so presumably was at Columbus for some time. Can the image be made large enough to read the BuAer No.?
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Not my credit: Ronnie Olsthoorn on Facebook, but sets the story straight:
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1 hour ago, MikeC said:
Not mentioned in this thread , assuming I've used the search function correctly. The Matchbox kit isn't ideal, I agree.
I used to live near Shepherds Grove, where the first F86As in England were based, hence the interest.
Madness if so! My error then: I was sure it had been mentioned, and if not then why not!!???
I too have an interest: I have an as-yet unpublished manuscript detailing the 81st FGp/FW/FIW/FBW Sabre period. One day maybe...
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10 hours ago, MikeC said:
Just had another thought: I believe we are missing something that seems to be missing in all the major scales (bar the old Matchbox 1:72 example) a good old-fashioned slatted-wing F-86A.
Mentioned a number of times already. The Matchbox "F-86A" (it's a caricature) can also be mentioned in the same breath as the Lindberg "F-86A", which isn't worthy of the name either.
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Do we know the intentions of the new owner? Do we even know if they'll be moving?
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7 minutes ago, tomprobert said:
MB-17Gs served as mother ships/launchers for early guided missiles. As a result, they were some of the last B-17s in active service, serving up until the late 1950s. They were used for the development of Felix, Razon and Tarzan guided gliding bombs/missiles.
I think one survives State-side in a museum JVT off hand can’t remember which - it’s been converted back to stock WWII condition, however.
Tom,
This makes sense: thanks for the info. However I can confirm that no MB-17Gs existed after 1953. Some were redesignated as QB-17Gs following conversion to drone configuration while others became TB-17Gs, presumably less the weapons carriage items. The last B-17s in service were QB-17N drones and DB-17P directors; earlier conversions had been designated QB-17G or DB-17G and then given the designations QB-17L and DB-17P circa 1955 (there were no newly-converted DB-17s after this date, and newly-converted QB-17s post-1955 were designated QB-17N)).
And now I know that the MB-17s were fully independent of the QB-17s.
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6 minutes ago, MARU5137 said:
Half way down, read....
B-17G Flying Fortress - Air Mobility Command Museum
https://amcmuseum.org/at-the-museum/aircraft/b-17g-flying-fortress/https://1000aircraftphotos.com/MilitaryProp/8501.htm
Yes I saw these - not much further info however.
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Supposedly a flying bomb (post-WW2) but aside from NOT being Aphrodite B-17s, what exactly were MB-17Gs?
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1 hour ago, LSP_Ron said:
HPH makes a 410 in 1/32 but it's pricey
Pricey, but as with all HPH kits, well worth it.
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4 hours ago, dashotgun said:
a modern produced Korean war f-86
Kinetic did one.
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Nice rundown: thanks. We still need a decent BUFF book!
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On 4/17/2022 at 7:09 AM, mozart said:
Harvard Mk I
Kitty Hawk already does a Harvard; probably due for re-release under new ownership.
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2 hours ago, alaninaustria said:
Have a look here: http://yocumusa.com/sweetrose/duncan/wings.htm
It explains everything you need to know!
Cheers
Alan
main website here: http://yocumusa.com/sweetrose/duncan/
That's my old website! Glad it's still of use.
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53 minutes ago, Ayovan said:
Not trying to be a jackalope
Not trying to be a jackalope, just trying to be a little better informed.
This is one of the pics that made me think the MK6 had the 12 inch wing extensions of the -40 wing. Which version is this? Maybe an -40 painted up as a Golden Hawk? No date for this photo and the only info I have is calling it a MK6. Not saying its correct...
This is the same aircraft while Penhall had it: note the hard-edge Sabre 5 wing. It also carried this scheme when it gained the F-40 wing.
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48 minutes ago, Ayovan said:
Not trying to be a jackalope
Not trying to be a jackalope, just trying to be a little better informed.
This is one of the pics that made me think the MK6 had the 12 inch wing extensions of the -40 wing. Which version is this? Maybe an -40 painted up as a Golden Hawk? No date for this photo and the only info I have is calling it a MK6. Not saying its correct...
It's a Sabre 5 with F-40 wings; a non uncommon conversion done for the 1970s civilian market. In this case the conversion was by Leroy Penhall, who did a few Sabre 5/6 with F-40 wings. You could always model a civilian bird based on this configuration of course!
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40 minutes ago, Ayovan said:
Im not all that versed in the Canadair Sabre's but for at least the MK6 I think the Hasegawa would be more representative with the extended wing tips and leading edge slats.
Sabre 6 doesn't have the extended-span wing.
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The Hasegawa kit is good shape-wise but is the extended-span F-86F-40 so you'll need to shorten the span (Sabre 6); shorten the span, fill the slats and add a wing fence (Sabre 5/hard-edge Sabre 4) or reduce the chord and shorten the span (early Sabre 4). If you want to do a Sabre 2 then it will be something of a challenge with a revised windshield plus the other bits.
The kit is also a bit clunky in terms of detail. Also note that the landing gears are modelled in the 'weight-off-wheels' configuration so unless you shorten the oleos it will look clunky. The Hasegawa Sabre also comes with the forced-ejection drop tanks (not applicable to the Canadair Sabres), as well as a set of 120-gallon tanks which are Ok but you need the later 200-gallon finned tanks if you want to do a Sabre 5 or 6.
Whichever kit you choose, you'll need to modify, with the main items to look for the mid-fuselage vents (same as F-86A/E), 'sugar scoop' intakes on the aft lower fuselage (later Sabre 5 and Sabre 6) and flush fuselage top with dorsal vent in place of the raised intake/vent panel unique to the F-86F. There are a few extra vents in the aft fuselage for the Orenda-engined Sabres, but generally these are round orifices so no great difficulty.
Canadair Sabres wore NMF in Canadian service up to and including the Sabre 5, with Europe-based models being camouflaged in-theatre. Sabre 6s were camouflaged during build. However you could do NMF RCAF schemes for Sabre 2 (plus Greece and Turkey); Sabre 4 (plus RAF), Sabre 5 and Luftwaffe and SAAF Sabre 6, plus the QF-86E drone Sabre 5s were NMF too.
Best book: Larry Milberry's Canadair Sabre book for CANAV.
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Very few 'missing' if you count types which haven't been kitted at all in 1/32. But for a start, Martinsyde Elephant; Bristol Scout; DH.6; BE.12.
Anything preceded by, "A new-tool...", "Recent..." or containing the word "recessed" doesn't count.
F-86 0 6-3 wing - what options
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The 'NATO' Kinetic kit is actually an F-86F-40, and not accurate for a German Sabre 5 or 6. It's even further away from an RAF Sabre 4. Kit manufacturers have done a great deal to confuse things when it comes to the F-86!