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  1. 2 hours ago, MikeMaben said:

    Wow, forgot about those , odd , haven't seen any around for years. Musta been a 'very' limited edition.

     

    Hi Thom, there were different configurations early on. Don't know what the reason was. Apparently experimental as they

    disappeared early on as well.

     

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    The Eduard is available, even though stock regularly sell out and becomes "temporarily unavailable" - it is one of Eduard's bankers.

     

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  2. 42 minutes ago, thierry laurent said:

    Well painted the Hasegawa kit surely LOOKS like an early Spitfire but the list of inaccuracies and omissions is VERY long. Do not forget the same sprues and parts were used to depict the Mk.Ia, Mk.IIa and Mk.Va! No need to say more about accuracy!

    All kits have deficiencies but if we compare all Revell and Hasegawa 1/32 Spit releases, I'm still considering the new Kotare offer to be far better. It may still ask for some corrections that could have been avoided but globally this is an easier route than trying to improve any of the 1/32 other kits! Ask me how I know... By the way all other kits have far more obvious wings, nose, propeller or cockpit issues. So I think we should now move on...

    Yes BUT that is the point! The Hasegawa build here, with the work that has gone into it looks like an early Spitfire, and one can only respect the modeling, whereas the Kotare built OOB does not look like a Spitfire with its ugly crude wing profile, and misshapen nose, ugly prop, weird fabric rudder, ailerons and elevators, clumsy, heavy and idiosyncratic riveting, etc etc. If it was £20, or even £40 like the original WNWseaters and didn't claim to be well researched, then it wouldn't merit comment, but it's expensive and the kit authors on here call even out RJ Mitchell on the issue of his perception of his own wing - which is really out of order to my mind.

     

     

  3. 1 minute ago, LSP_Mike said:

    While the Kotare kit may not be the Tamiya kit(s) standard, Tamiya left a huge gap by not doing any other marks. Kotare has filled those gaps. Eduard does not count, to me as it is 1/48. Stating a 1970s kit is to the standard of the Kotare kit seems a wee extreme. The Hasegawa kit was so far ahead of the game back then?

    I agree about the Tamiya, but I think there is so much correction to do to the Kotare around the wing profile, and the shape of the nose, fabric detail, not to mention cockpit errors and omissions, plus the prop etc etc, that Hasegawa kit above ends up being no more work than achieving a reasonable result than taking on the Kotare, or converting a Tamiya to a Mk I -  if your ambition is to do it as well as this Hasegawa model.

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    48 minutes ago, Iain said:

    I'm sure readers could easily have clicked on the link I provided to see the images - or if you'd posted a link originally.

     

    But it's a lovely build, isn't it!

     

    If you're arguing that the Hasegawa IIa (that was based on their earlier Vb with retooled wings - and released at one point by Revell, prior to their newly tooled, but poor, 2014 Mk.IIa release) is a better starting point for an early Spit than the Kotare kits, then you've completely lost me I'm afraid.

     

    I built several of the Hasegawa IIa kits back in the day - it was a big step forward in the scale for early Spits at the time - that build really isn't straight kit (the wing and fuselage riveting/engraving for a start) - and the Kotare kits are a far better starting point than the Hasegawa kits in my humble opinion.

     

    And I'd be surprised if you find the Hasegawa kit (or the Revell release of it) for £20 these days.

     

    Blue skies,

     

    Iain

     

     

     

     

    I wanted to avoid the discussion about the fact that the codes, serial number and pilot are all unrelated which seemed the inevitable result of revealing the title for the model on the LSP library, but since you have posted the above - there is a bit of confusion around the profile, however the point was it is a very nice build from a kit that requires only as much work as the Kotare in my view, but can be found very cheaply. And yes it would be nice to have a modern, accurate, well-researched kit, but the Kotare is not that, it is well behind the efforts of both Eduard and Tamiya.

     

     

    The Hasegawa model EB O P8209 was built from a Hasegawa Spitfire Vb/VI/IIa the plastic is all the same as far as I remember.

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