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My opinions are my opinions, and have been fully justified with photographic justification for what I wrote on all the points I raised, your comment above is totally unacceptable and you should withdraw it!

That is a matter of opinion, and only one of the errors in the cockpit layout have been aired on this forum, If you knew more about Spitfires, you would know you are wrong in your expressed views, none the less you are entitled to them, just as everyone is entitled to a view! However eroors of fact are just that, errors of fact.

Hi Paul Well said, I totally agree with you, and all credit to Eduard for being straight up enough to own their mistakes, and correct them! If only all other manufacturers were of the same caliber!

Are you asking me to write out and illustrate all the errors and mistakes in this kit including all the obvious mistakes in the cockpit?

I agree, well said!

I completely disagree about Kotare, think whatever you like about the Fit and engineering, but te Kotare Spitfire is really badly researched by comparision to an Eduard Spitfire - the Kotare is bad as far as the big forms go, and the Kotare cockpit is a complete muddle..... An Eduard 1/48 Spitfire MkI scaled up to 1/32 would be infinitely better than the Kotare effort.

Their Spitfires are well ahead of the Kotare effort already, far more accurate in the essential form, the wing especially, and although there are issues with the Eduard they have made far far fewer mistakes with the details - the cockpit for instance which is a proper muddle in the Kotare kit, so I would very much welcome an Eduard Spitfire Mk I, although I suspect Vladimir S is talking about more versions of a Me109 in 1/32, an F, G and a K I would summise. Lets hope for a more accurate Spitfire MkI and MkII from Eduard though!

The brake line is behind the control stick, actuated by the long brake actuator in the middle of the stick hand hold, so that is my mistake, it's a single line that goes to a 5 way connector and a relay valve. The two lines on the front of the stick are one guns, and the second is camera [if fitted] but always plumbed. On frame 8 as marked.

Spitfire Mk I II and Vb have 5 pneumatic airlines running down frame 8 on the port side [as per original post question] . Aircraft with C wings initially had 5 lines, but reverted to 4 when they lost their landing lights. I have never seen a Spitfire with just three lines on frame 8.

They are pneumatic airlines, going to the port guns, from the instrument panel gauge and then the cylinders behind the seat.

Very nicely done, superb!

Excellent, very nice to see this so nicely done!

Tamiya Spitfire 1/32 every time, it is by far the best. Mk IXc or MkVIII, or MkXVI

And for what it is worth, here is a pic of K9942, with a restoration coat of black under the port wing that would have covered a sky undersurface of this replacement 1942 wing. The Identification plates in the wheel well are clearly not overpainted, either sky or the restoration black, and are dated as a replacement wing fitted in 1942. The wing itself is a remanufactured b wing that has had the panel over the wheel well cut out and replaced, and then wing strakes and strengthening fillets added, at which point these data plates would have been added, though I cannot say whether they were from the original skin. The point remains that the data plates are not overpainted in any colour.

Absolutely right!

September 1940.

And K9787 in 1940 with the first [smaller dia] design of wheel hub, also used on K5054, and with struts showing the locking line from the relief valve around the oleo.

Wartime pic.

Your pic at the top is annotated with the Relief valve arrowed, as described in the manual text.

"Night" black was not "very matt". Coded, Aircraft Finish no 8, Night was a very dark blue black which had much the same reflective surface as the Dark Green, and Earth of the main camo colours. "Night" was the colour used on spinners, and on the undersides of Fighter Command aircraft from 20th december 1938 under Airministry order A.154. The "very matt Night" as you call it was a totally different paint, called "Special Night" and coded RDM2 and RDM2A, described as a "sooty matt" true black and was used as the colour of the underside for bombers and overall colour for Defiants and Blenheims initially and then Beaufighters in the Nightfighter role, but never used on day fighters. Special Night was introduced for september 1939 for Bombers and Nightfighters, and used until december 1942, when it was superseded by " Night", Aircraft Finish no 8. Different paints, different colours, different reflective surfaces. here is a pic of Aircraft Finish no 8, "Night" on a Spitfire in 1938, showing the same paint under the port wing as on the spinner, and the camo green/earth with the same reflectivity.

Here is another pic of a MkVII on trials, with oleos clearly looking very different to wheel hubs.

Most of those colour pics look thoroughly "un-factory like" paint jobs to me and therefore highly dubious. and it's never that simple here is K9798 originally all silver underside, with a port wheel hub in black, and the oleo and oleo door remain silver.

My pleasure - there's a lot going on with these things called planes! Gets EVEN worse with jets! [I'm told!]

A clearer picture of the charging and relief valves, the latter with a locking line.

The line would around the oleo is exactly the same but used when the threaded line is longer , they both connect to the relief tap at the top.