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    airscale got a reaction from KUROK in 1/18 Hawker Fury   
    evening chaps
     
     
     
    Hi Tom - thanks for dropping in Good question... I have a lot of the design done as I did make some for my 190, but in all honesty I can't see a way to integrate anything accurate with the HB kit - it is a bit all over the place. Maybe just a replacement panel might work, but that is a bit incongruous when is sits alongside totally incorrectly sized / aligned sidewalls & the rest.. The alternative is a full cockpit, by which time you are talking a big set which would soon get expensive and to be honest I don't think they are in any way mass-market like the old airfix 1/24 stalwarts..
     
    ..not a priority, but not impossible either.. sorry
     
    ..still bimbling along on the Fury - got a good bit of time this weekend so thought I would at least start the panel..
     
    ..pressed metal, silver painted, wierd gizmo's either side of the upper central part and quite an interesting shape - basically it occupies the only remaing space looking forwards and allowing for the gun breeches... long before any sense of order or anything like a blind flying panel..
     

     
     
    ..I have made up the decal sheet for the model & this is with Ray at Fantasy with my pending airscale restock order...
     

     
    ..I started by adding plastic strip to the back of the PE panel to make it look like a pressing...
     

     
    ..also made up the wierd gizmo thing that sits behind the top out of kits of tiny PE parts...
     

     
    ..then painted it & added all the pre-painted bezels - also glazed some but will wait for the decals before doing the coloured (blue / yellow) bezels as these are like little slivers of coloured tube so I need to figure out how I will do those...
     

     
    ..it sort of goes here...
     

     

     
     
    ..next up I thought I would try the gun breeches.. I found some useful pics of the Vickers guns, though these have the big cooling jackets whereas the Fury has the thinner holed ones like a 50 cal you would see on a B17..
     
    ..I used this image to scale & design the PE and actually reversed the design for a left & right, but as it turns out they both have this mechanism on the same side so luckily I had a brass set PPD made by mistake so I could combine both PE sets to get two right handed guns..
     
     
    the core is a block of thick plastic card, with laminated PE sides & folded PE tops..
     

     
    ..then added some of the details and started to make up the charging handles from wood laminated on a PE part with brass pins through each - this was then doused in thin CA before shaping..
     

     
    ..then they were finished up.. I won't be adding the barrels, they will be added from the outside when the fuselage is done way into the future..
     

     

     
    ..need to make up the mounting frame for these now which is a pretty complicated tubular structure..
     
    TTFN
    Peter
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    airscale got a reaction from KUROK in 1/18 Hawker Fury   
    Oh my goodness, I can't possibly accept or live up to such praise , those are the kindest comments I have ever read. The thought of any comparison with my modelling heroes is really beyond my comprehension - I just try my best and set myself high standards on your behalf
     
    thank you - it is the fuel of my motivation..
     
    so, as I said last time, I started to detail the sidewalls in which there are many bits & bobs that mainly are mini models in their own right..
     
    starting with the R/H wall - here we have a conduit housing on the far left, a big brass ki-gas pump, a sort of pull handle on the top rail and a couple of push switches...
     

     

     

     
    ..on the L/H wall a trim wheel made from laminates of 0.5mm ply, some big ratchet handle and a small lever quadrant on the top rail - there is another one on the far side of the rail not shown..
     

     
    ..and again, it's a matter of constant dry fitting in the jig to make sure everything can co-habit with everything else..
     

     

     
     

     
     

     
     

     
     

     
     
    I have to say though, I am really enjoying this build and have started to prepare for the bigger questions it will ask of me - things like vac forming the basic fuselage off a basswood master and looking at the best way to construct the wings following the Alcorn / Lee book
     
    anyways, until next time..
     
    TTFN
    Peter
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    airscale got a reaction from KUROK in 1/18 Hawker Fury   
    Thank you chaps - very kind
     
     
     
    Hi Alain - thanks - no, no clear finish, I almost want them to oxidise to give a bit of age to things
     
     
     
     
    Gotta call that out Ben - totally untrue! I have seen what you do and it scares me - you easily have this sort of stuff in your locker
     
    I thought I might change things up a bit having been in the 'pit for a few weeks (and while I search for pics or drawings of the ammo boxes / chutes...) so thought I might make a start on the lower wings. These are more simple than the uppers (no ailerons) so are better candidates to learn on..
     
    .. I copied the techniques in the Alcorn book - they made it look straightforward
     
    ..first up make a brass template of the rib - thankfully these are constant chord across the span until it gets to the tip.. the holes they are pinned through are the centrepoints of the two tubular spars and match the mounts on the brass tube fuselage section...
     

     
    after making about 30, they are put together as a laminated block (using broaches to align them), clamped and finished to all are identical.. as the book says, they were taken out and 'shuffled' a few times to get them equal..
     

     
     
    ..i created a drawing of the wing with the outline & rib position marked and then stuck lots of little plastic 'U' channel strips where each rib meets the leading edge. The leading edge itself was a bit of half round plastic strip..
     

     
     
    ...cut the tip shape from black plastic card so I can see the midpoint during sanding later and stuck those to carbon rod spars..
     
    ..also made a jig for each wing so the assembly is flat & true..
     

     
    ..started adding the ribs having reamed the holes to fit the spars as a tight fit..
     

     
    ..there is a loose rib yet to be attatched at the root so the root rib is double thickness..
     

     
    ..added the ribs to the tip as blanks and sanded them down, also added a folded litho trailing edge for a nice crisp edge..
     

     
     
    ..added lots of sheet strengtheners - even with these the wing doesn't have a great deal of torsional strength against twisting, so will have to watch for that..
     

     
     
    ..also added mounts for interplane struts and rigging... just thick 3mm card & brass tubes for now
     

     
     
    ..then realised I had not allowed for dihedral (doh...)
     
    ..so I put a slit in each spar and built a jig so I could crack them and CA at the right angle... once that was done I added a brass rib at the canted angle and backfilled with CA to surround the cracked spars - all seems strong enough thankfully..
     

     
     
    ..and now I have started experimenting with scoring ribs into sheet with a ballpoint pen in order to skin them... I will most likely do one big skin and wrap around the leading edge..
     

     
    ..this is all uncharted territory for me, so we will see how it goes
     
    TTFN
    Peter
     
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    airscale got a reaction from Bil in 1/18 Hawker Fury   
    Thank you chaps - very kind
     
     
     
    Hi Alain - thanks - no, no clear finish, I almost want them to oxidise to give a bit of age to things
     
     
     
     
    Gotta call that out Ben - totally untrue! I have seen what you do and it scares me - you easily have this sort of stuff in your locker
     
    I thought I might change things up a bit having been in the 'pit for a few weeks (and while I search for pics or drawings of the ammo boxes / chutes...) so thought I might make a start on the lower wings. These are more simple than the uppers (no ailerons) so are better candidates to learn on..
     
    .. I copied the techniques in the Alcorn book - they made it look straightforward
     
    ..first up make a brass template of the rib - thankfully these are constant chord across the span until it gets to the tip.. the holes they are pinned through are the centrepoints of the two tubular spars and match the mounts on the brass tube fuselage section...
     

     
    after making about 30, they are put together as a laminated block (using broaches to align them), clamped and finished to all are identical.. as the book says, they were taken out and 'shuffled' a few times to get them equal..
     

     
     
    ..i created a drawing of the wing with the outline & rib position marked and then stuck lots of little plastic 'U' channel strips where each rib meets the leading edge. The leading edge itself was a bit of half round plastic strip..
     

     
     
    ...cut the tip shape from black plastic card so I can see the midpoint during sanding later and stuck those to carbon rod spars..
     
    ..also made a jig for each wing so the assembly is flat & true..
     

     
    ..started adding the ribs having reamed the holes to fit the spars as a tight fit..
     

     
    ..there is a loose rib yet to be attatched at the root so the root rib is double thickness..
     

     
    ..added the ribs to the tip as blanks and sanded them down, also added a folded litho trailing edge for a nice crisp edge..
     

     
     
    ..added lots of sheet strengtheners - even with these the wing doesn't have a great deal of torsional strength against twisting, so will have to watch for that..
     

     
     
    ..also added mounts for interplane struts and rigging... just thick 3mm card & brass tubes for now
     

     
     
    ..then realised I had not allowed for dihedral (doh...)
     
    ..so I put a slit in each spar and built a jig so I could crack them and CA at the right angle... once that was done I added a brass rib at the canted angle and backfilled with CA to surround the cracked spars - all seems strong enough thankfully..
     

     
     
    ..and now I have started experimenting with scoring ribs into sheet with a ballpoint pen in order to skin them... I will most likely do one big skin and wrap around the leading edge..
     

     
    ..this is all uncharted territory for me, so we will see how it goes
     
    TTFN
    Peter
     
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    airscale got a reaction from Rockie Yarwood in PZL P.6 1931 from scratch scale 1/32   
    Marcin - if this was half scale I would be saying you have done an amazing job - the fact this is 1/32 just leaves me speechless
     
    every little detail is perfect - you are a highly disciplined perfectionist and it shows
     
    ..just looking at the prop & spinner as I have that challenge coming up at some point - how did you get such a flawless finish on both? I assume the spinner is wrapped & there is an invisible join somewhere?
     
    can't tell you how inspiring it is to see such talents on show
     
    Peter
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    airscale got a reaction from Rockie Yarwood in 1/18 Hawker Fury   
    Thank you chaps - very kind
     
     
     
    Hi Alain - thanks - no, no clear finish, I almost want them to oxidise to give a bit of age to things
     
     
     
     
    Gotta call that out Ben - totally untrue! I have seen what you do and it scares me - you easily have this sort of stuff in your locker
     
    I thought I might change things up a bit having been in the 'pit for a few weeks (and while I search for pics or drawings of the ammo boxes / chutes...) so thought I might make a start on the lower wings. These are more simple than the uppers (no ailerons) so are better candidates to learn on..
     
    .. I copied the techniques in the Alcorn book - they made it look straightforward
     
    ..first up make a brass template of the rib - thankfully these are constant chord across the span until it gets to the tip.. the holes they are pinned through are the centrepoints of the two tubular spars and match the mounts on the brass tube fuselage section...
     

     
    after making about 30, they are put together as a laminated block (using broaches to align them), clamped and finished to all are identical.. as the book says, they were taken out and 'shuffled' a few times to get them equal..
     

     
     
    ..i created a drawing of the wing with the outline & rib position marked and then stuck lots of little plastic 'U' channel strips where each rib meets the leading edge. The leading edge itself was a bit of half round plastic strip..
     

     
     
    ...cut the tip shape from black plastic card so I can see the midpoint during sanding later and stuck those to carbon rod spars..
     
    ..also made a jig for each wing so the assembly is flat & true..
     

     
    ..started adding the ribs having reamed the holes to fit the spars as a tight fit..
     

     
    ..there is a loose rib yet to be attatched at the root so the root rib is double thickness..
     

     
    ..added the ribs to the tip as blanks and sanded them down, also added a folded litho trailing edge for a nice crisp edge..
     

     
     
    ..added lots of sheet strengtheners - even with these the wing doesn't have a great deal of torsional strength against twisting, so will have to watch for that..
     

     
     
    ..also added mounts for interplane struts and rigging... just thick 3mm card & brass tubes for now
     

     
     
    ..then realised I had not allowed for dihedral (doh...)
     
    ..so I put a slit in each spar and built a jig so I could crack them and CA at the right angle... once that was done I added a brass rib at the canted angle and backfilled with CA to surround the cracked spars - all seems strong enough thankfully..
     

     
     
    ..and now I have started experimenting with scoring ribs into sheet with a ballpoint pen in order to skin them... I will most likely do one big skin and wrap around the leading edge..
     

     
    ..this is all uncharted territory for me, so we will see how it goes
     
    TTFN
    Peter
     
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    airscale got a reaction from Brett M in 1/18 Hawker Fury   
    Thank you chaps - very kind
     
     
     
    Hi Alain - thanks - no, no clear finish, I almost want them to oxidise to give a bit of age to things
     
     
     
     
    Gotta call that out Ben - totally untrue! I have seen what you do and it scares me - you easily have this sort of stuff in your locker
     
    I thought I might change things up a bit having been in the 'pit for a few weeks (and while I search for pics or drawings of the ammo boxes / chutes...) so thought I might make a start on the lower wings. These are more simple than the uppers (no ailerons) so are better candidates to learn on..
     
    .. I copied the techniques in the Alcorn book - they made it look straightforward
     
    ..first up make a brass template of the rib - thankfully these are constant chord across the span until it gets to the tip.. the holes they are pinned through are the centrepoints of the two tubular spars and match the mounts on the brass tube fuselage section...
     

     
    after making about 30, they are put together as a laminated block (using broaches to align them), clamped and finished to all are identical.. as the book says, they were taken out and 'shuffled' a few times to get them equal..
     

     
     
    ..i created a drawing of the wing with the outline & rib position marked and then stuck lots of little plastic 'U' channel strips where each rib meets the leading edge. The leading edge itself was a bit of half round plastic strip..
     

     
     
    ...cut the tip shape from black plastic card so I can see the midpoint during sanding later and stuck those to carbon rod spars..
     
    ..also made a jig for each wing so the assembly is flat & true..
     

     
    ..started adding the ribs having reamed the holes to fit the spars as a tight fit..
     

     
    ..there is a loose rib yet to be attatched at the root so the root rib is double thickness..
     

     
    ..added the ribs to the tip as blanks and sanded them down, also added a folded litho trailing edge for a nice crisp edge..
     

     
     
    ..added lots of sheet strengtheners - even with these the wing doesn't have a great deal of torsional strength against twisting, so will have to watch for that..
     

     
     
    ..also added mounts for interplane struts and rigging... just thick 3mm card & brass tubes for now
     

     
     
    ..then realised I had not allowed for dihedral (doh...)
     
    ..so I put a slit in each spar and built a jig so I could crack them and CA at the right angle... once that was done I added a brass rib at the canted angle and backfilled with CA to surround the cracked spars - all seems strong enough thankfully..
     

     
     
    ..and now I have started experimenting with scoring ribs into sheet with a ballpoint pen in order to skin them... I will most likely do one big skin and wrap around the leading edge..
     

     
    ..this is all uncharted territory for me, so we will see how it goes
     
    TTFN
    Peter
     
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    airscale got a reaction from Alain Gadbois in 1/18 Hawker Fury   
    Thank you chaps - very kind
     
     
     
    Hi Alain - thanks - no, no clear finish, I almost want them to oxidise to give a bit of age to things
     
     
     
     
    Gotta call that out Ben - totally untrue! I have seen what you do and it scares me - you easily have this sort of stuff in your locker
     
    I thought I might change things up a bit having been in the 'pit for a few weeks (and while I search for pics or drawings of the ammo boxes / chutes...) so thought I might make a start on the lower wings. These are more simple than the uppers (no ailerons) so are better candidates to learn on..
     
    .. I copied the techniques in the Alcorn book - they made it look straightforward
     
    ..first up make a brass template of the rib - thankfully these are constant chord across the span until it gets to the tip.. the holes they are pinned through are the centrepoints of the two tubular spars and match the mounts on the brass tube fuselage section...
     

     
    after making about 30, they are put together as a laminated block (using broaches to align them), clamped and finished to all are identical.. as the book says, they were taken out and 'shuffled' a few times to get them equal..
     

     
     
    ..i created a drawing of the wing with the outline & rib position marked and then stuck lots of little plastic 'U' channel strips where each rib meets the leading edge. The leading edge itself was a bit of half round plastic strip..
     

     
     
    ...cut the tip shape from black plastic card so I can see the midpoint during sanding later and stuck those to carbon rod spars..
     
    ..also made a jig for each wing so the assembly is flat & true..
     

     
    ..started adding the ribs having reamed the holes to fit the spars as a tight fit..
     

     
    ..there is a loose rib yet to be attatched at the root so the root rib is double thickness..
     

     
    ..added the ribs to the tip as blanks and sanded them down, also added a folded litho trailing edge for a nice crisp edge..
     

     
     
    ..added lots of sheet strengtheners - even with these the wing doesn't have a great deal of torsional strength against twisting, so will have to watch for that..
     

     
     
    ..also added mounts for interplane struts and rigging... just thick 3mm card & brass tubes for now
     

     
     
    ..then realised I had not allowed for dihedral (doh...)
     
    ..so I put a slit in each spar and built a jig so I could crack them and CA at the right angle... once that was done I added a brass rib at the canted angle and backfilled with CA to surround the cracked spars - all seems strong enough thankfully..
     

     
     
    ..and now I have started experimenting with scoring ribs into sheet with a ballpoint pen in order to skin them... I will most likely do one big skin and wrap around the leading edge..
     

     
    ..this is all uncharted territory for me, so we will see how it goes
     
    TTFN
    Peter
     
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    airscale got a reaction from MARU5137 in As an aside...   
    Hey Geoff
     
    Thank God - I actually feared the worst when you went radio silent
     
    I hope all is well and we see you back in the mix soon
     
    Super happy to see you back
     
    Peter
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    airscale got a reaction from easixpedro in 1/18 Hawker Fury   
    Thank you chaps - very kind
     
     
     
    Hi Alain - thanks - no, no clear finish, I almost want them to oxidise to give a bit of age to things
     
     
     
     
    Gotta call that out Ben - totally untrue! I have seen what you do and it scares me - you easily have this sort of stuff in your locker
     
    I thought I might change things up a bit having been in the 'pit for a few weeks (and while I search for pics or drawings of the ammo boxes / chutes...) so thought I might make a start on the lower wings. These are more simple than the uppers (no ailerons) so are better candidates to learn on..
     
    .. I copied the techniques in the Alcorn book - they made it look straightforward
     
    ..first up make a brass template of the rib - thankfully these are constant chord across the span until it gets to the tip.. the holes they are pinned through are the centrepoints of the two tubular spars and match the mounts on the brass tube fuselage section...
     

     
    after making about 30, they are put together as a laminated block (using broaches to align them), clamped and finished to all are identical.. as the book says, they were taken out and 'shuffled' a few times to get them equal..
     

     
     
    ..i created a drawing of the wing with the outline & rib position marked and then stuck lots of little plastic 'U' channel strips where each rib meets the leading edge. The leading edge itself was a bit of half round plastic strip..
     

     
     
    ...cut the tip shape from black plastic card so I can see the midpoint during sanding later and stuck those to carbon rod spars..
     
    ..also made a jig for each wing so the assembly is flat & true..
     

     
    ..started adding the ribs having reamed the holes to fit the spars as a tight fit..
     

     
    ..there is a loose rib yet to be attatched at the root so the root rib is double thickness..
     

     
    ..added the ribs to the tip as blanks and sanded them down, also added a folded litho trailing edge for a nice crisp edge..
     

     
     
    ..added lots of sheet strengtheners - even with these the wing doesn't have a great deal of torsional strength against twisting, so will have to watch for that..
     

     
     
    ..also added mounts for interplane struts and rigging... just thick 3mm card & brass tubes for now
     

     
     
    ..then realised I had not allowed for dihedral (doh...)
     
    ..so I put a slit in each spar and built a jig so I could crack them and CA at the right angle... once that was done I added a brass rib at the canted angle and backfilled with CA to surround the cracked spars - all seems strong enough thankfully..
     

     
     
    ..and now I have started experimenting with scoring ribs into sheet with a ballpoint pen in order to skin them... I will most likely do one big skin and wrap around the leading edge..
     

     
    ..this is all uncharted territory for me, so we will see how it goes
     
    TTFN
    Peter
     
  11. Like
    airscale got a reaction from mpk in As an aside...   
    Hey Geoff
     
    Thank God - I actually feared the worst when you went radio silent
     
    I hope all is well and we see you back in the mix soon
     
    Super happy to see you back
     
    Peter
  12. Like
    airscale got a reaction from dodgem37 in 1/18 Hawker Fury   
    Thank you chaps - very kind
     
     
     
    Hi Alain - thanks - no, no clear finish, I almost want them to oxidise to give a bit of age to things
     
     
     
     
    Gotta call that out Ben - totally untrue! I have seen what you do and it scares me - you easily have this sort of stuff in your locker
     
    I thought I might change things up a bit having been in the 'pit for a few weeks (and while I search for pics or drawings of the ammo boxes / chutes...) so thought I might make a start on the lower wings. These are more simple than the uppers (no ailerons) so are better candidates to learn on..
     
    .. I copied the techniques in the Alcorn book - they made it look straightforward
     
    ..first up make a brass template of the rib - thankfully these are constant chord across the span until it gets to the tip.. the holes they are pinned through are the centrepoints of the two tubular spars and match the mounts on the brass tube fuselage section...
     

     
    after making about 30, they are put together as a laminated block (using broaches to align them), clamped and finished to all are identical.. as the book says, they were taken out and 'shuffled' a few times to get them equal..
     

     
     
    ..i created a drawing of the wing with the outline & rib position marked and then stuck lots of little plastic 'U' channel strips where each rib meets the leading edge. The leading edge itself was a bit of half round plastic strip..
     

     
     
    ...cut the tip shape from black plastic card so I can see the midpoint during sanding later and stuck those to carbon rod spars..
     
    ..also made a jig for each wing so the assembly is flat & true..
     

     
    ..started adding the ribs having reamed the holes to fit the spars as a tight fit..
     

     
    ..there is a loose rib yet to be attatched at the root so the root rib is double thickness..
     

     
    ..added the ribs to the tip as blanks and sanded them down, also added a folded litho trailing edge for a nice crisp edge..
     

     
     
    ..added lots of sheet strengtheners - even with these the wing doesn't have a great deal of torsional strength against twisting, so will have to watch for that..
     

     
     
    ..also added mounts for interplane struts and rigging... just thick 3mm card & brass tubes for now
     

     
     
    ..then realised I had not allowed for dihedral (doh...)
     
    ..so I put a slit in each spar and built a jig so I could crack them and CA at the right angle... once that was done I added a brass rib at the canted angle and backfilled with CA to surround the cracked spars - all seems strong enough thankfully..
     

     
     
    ..and now I have started experimenting with scoring ribs into sheet with a ballpoint pen in order to skin them... I will most likely do one big skin and wrap around the leading edge..
     

     
    ..this is all uncharted territory for me, so we will see how it goes
     
    TTFN
    Peter
     
  13. Like
    airscale got a reaction from Fvdm in 1/18 Hawker Fury   
    Thank you chaps - very kind
     
     
     
    Hi Alain - thanks - no, no clear finish, I almost want them to oxidise to give a bit of age to things
     
     
     
     
    Gotta call that out Ben - totally untrue! I have seen what you do and it scares me - you easily have this sort of stuff in your locker
     
    I thought I might change things up a bit having been in the 'pit for a few weeks (and while I search for pics or drawings of the ammo boxes / chutes...) so thought I might make a start on the lower wings. These are more simple than the uppers (no ailerons) so are better candidates to learn on..
     
    .. I copied the techniques in the Alcorn book - they made it look straightforward
     
    ..first up make a brass template of the rib - thankfully these are constant chord across the span until it gets to the tip.. the holes they are pinned through are the centrepoints of the two tubular spars and match the mounts on the brass tube fuselage section...
     

     
    after making about 30, they are put together as a laminated block (using broaches to align them), clamped and finished to all are identical.. as the book says, they were taken out and 'shuffled' a few times to get them equal..
     

     
     
    ..i created a drawing of the wing with the outline & rib position marked and then stuck lots of little plastic 'U' channel strips where each rib meets the leading edge. The leading edge itself was a bit of half round plastic strip..
     

     
     
    ...cut the tip shape from black plastic card so I can see the midpoint during sanding later and stuck those to carbon rod spars..
     
    ..also made a jig for each wing so the assembly is flat & true..
     

     
    ..started adding the ribs having reamed the holes to fit the spars as a tight fit..
     

     
    ..there is a loose rib yet to be attatched at the root so the root rib is double thickness..
     

     
    ..added the ribs to the tip as blanks and sanded them down, also added a folded litho trailing edge for a nice crisp edge..
     

     
     
    ..added lots of sheet strengtheners - even with these the wing doesn't have a great deal of torsional strength against twisting, so will have to watch for that..
     

     
     
    ..also added mounts for interplane struts and rigging... just thick 3mm card & brass tubes for now
     

     
     
    ..then realised I had not allowed for dihedral (doh...)
     
    ..so I put a slit in each spar and built a jig so I could crack them and CA at the right angle... once that was done I added a brass rib at the canted angle and backfilled with CA to surround the cracked spars - all seems strong enough thankfully..
     

     
     
    ..and now I have started experimenting with scoring ribs into sheet with a ballpoint pen in order to skin them... I will most likely do one big skin and wrap around the leading edge..
     

     
    ..this is all uncharted territory for me, so we will see how it goes
     
    TTFN
    Peter
     
  14. Like
    airscale got a reaction from LSP_Kevin in 1/18 Hawker Fury   
    Thank you chaps - very kind
     
     
     
    Hi Alain - thanks - no, no clear finish, I almost want them to oxidise to give a bit of age to things
     
     
     
     
    Gotta call that out Ben - totally untrue! I have seen what you do and it scares me - you easily have this sort of stuff in your locker
     
    I thought I might change things up a bit having been in the 'pit for a few weeks (and while I search for pics or drawings of the ammo boxes / chutes...) so thought I might make a start on the lower wings. These are more simple than the uppers (no ailerons) so are better candidates to learn on..
     
    .. I copied the techniques in the Alcorn book - they made it look straightforward
     
    ..first up make a brass template of the rib - thankfully these are constant chord across the span until it gets to the tip.. the holes they are pinned through are the centrepoints of the two tubular spars and match the mounts on the brass tube fuselage section...
     

     
    after making about 30, they are put together as a laminated block (using broaches to align them), clamped and finished to all are identical.. as the book says, they were taken out and 'shuffled' a few times to get them equal..
     

     
     
    ..i created a drawing of the wing with the outline & rib position marked and then stuck lots of little plastic 'U' channel strips where each rib meets the leading edge. The leading edge itself was a bit of half round plastic strip..
     

     
     
    ...cut the tip shape from black plastic card so I can see the midpoint during sanding later and stuck those to carbon rod spars..
     
    ..also made a jig for each wing so the assembly is flat & true..
     

     
    ..started adding the ribs having reamed the holes to fit the spars as a tight fit..
     

     
    ..there is a loose rib yet to be attatched at the root so the root rib is double thickness..
     

     
    ..added the ribs to the tip as blanks and sanded them down, also added a folded litho trailing edge for a nice crisp edge..
     

     
     
    ..added lots of sheet strengtheners - even with these the wing doesn't have a great deal of torsional strength against twisting, so will have to watch for that..
     

     
     
    ..also added mounts for interplane struts and rigging... just thick 3mm card & brass tubes for now
     

     
     
    ..then realised I had not allowed for dihedral (doh...)
     
    ..so I put a slit in each spar and built a jig so I could crack them and CA at the right angle... once that was done I added a brass rib at the canted angle and backfilled with CA to surround the cracked spars - all seems strong enough thankfully..
     

     
     
    ..and now I have started experimenting with scoring ribs into sheet with a ballpoint pen in order to skin them... I will most likely do one big skin and wrap around the leading edge..
     

     
    ..this is all uncharted territory for me, so we will see how it goes
     
    TTFN
    Peter
     
  15. Like
    airscale got a reaction from RadBaron in 1/18 Hawker Fury   
    Thank you chaps - very kind
     
     
     
    Hi Alain - thanks - no, no clear finish, I almost want them to oxidise to give a bit of age to things
     
     
     
     
    Gotta call that out Ben - totally untrue! I have seen what you do and it scares me - you easily have this sort of stuff in your locker
     
    I thought I might change things up a bit having been in the 'pit for a few weeks (and while I search for pics or drawings of the ammo boxes / chutes...) so thought I might make a start on the lower wings. These are more simple than the uppers (no ailerons) so are better candidates to learn on..
     
    .. I copied the techniques in the Alcorn book - they made it look straightforward
     
    ..first up make a brass template of the rib - thankfully these are constant chord across the span until it gets to the tip.. the holes they are pinned through are the centrepoints of the two tubular spars and match the mounts on the brass tube fuselage section...
     

     
    after making about 30, they are put together as a laminated block (using broaches to align them), clamped and finished to all are identical.. as the book says, they were taken out and 'shuffled' a few times to get them equal..
     

     
     
    ..i created a drawing of the wing with the outline & rib position marked and then stuck lots of little plastic 'U' channel strips where each rib meets the leading edge. The leading edge itself was a bit of half round plastic strip..
     

     
     
    ...cut the tip shape from black plastic card so I can see the midpoint during sanding later and stuck those to carbon rod spars..
     
    ..also made a jig for each wing so the assembly is flat & true..
     

     
    ..started adding the ribs having reamed the holes to fit the spars as a tight fit..
     

     
    ..there is a loose rib yet to be attatched at the root so the root rib is double thickness..
     

     
    ..added the ribs to the tip as blanks and sanded them down, also added a folded litho trailing edge for a nice crisp edge..
     

     
     
    ..added lots of sheet strengtheners - even with these the wing doesn't have a great deal of torsional strength against twisting, so will have to watch for that..
     

     
     
    ..also added mounts for interplane struts and rigging... just thick 3mm card & brass tubes for now
     

     
     
    ..then realised I had not allowed for dihedral (doh...)
     
    ..so I put a slit in each spar and built a jig so I could crack them and CA at the right angle... once that was done I added a brass rib at the canted angle and backfilled with CA to surround the cracked spars - all seems strong enough thankfully..
     

     
     
    ..and now I have started experimenting with scoring ribs into sheet with a ballpoint pen in order to skin them... I will most likely do one big skin and wrap around the leading edge..
     

     
    ..this is all uncharted territory for me, so we will see how it goes
     
    TTFN
    Peter
     
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    airscale got a reaction from brahman104 in 1/18 Hawker Fury   
    Thank you chaps - very kind
     
     
     
    Hi Alain - thanks - no, no clear finish, I almost want them to oxidise to give a bit of age to things
     
     
     
     
    Gotta call that out Ben - totally untrue! I have seen what you do and it scares me - you easily have this sort of stuff in your locker
     
    I thought I might change things up a bit having been in the 'pit for a few weeks (and while I search for pics or drawings of the ammo boxes / chutes...) so thought I might make a start on the lower wings. These are more simple than the uppers (no ailerons) so are better candidates to learn on..
     
    .. I copied the techniques in the Alcorn book - they made it look straightforward
     
    ..first up make a brass template of the rib - thankfully these are constant chord across the span until it gets to the tip.. the holes they are pinned through are the centrepoints of the two tubular spars and match the mounts on the brass tube fuselage section...
     

     
    after making about 30, they are put together as a laminated block (using broaches to align them), clamped and finished to all are identical.. as the book says, they were taken out and 'shuffled' a few times to get them equal..
     

     
     
    ..i created a drawing of the wing with the outline & rib position marked and then stuck lots of little plastic 'U' channel strips where each rib meets the leading edge. The leading edge itself was a bit of half round plastic strip..
     

     
     
    ...cut the tip shape from black plastic card so I can see the midpoint during sanding later and stuck those to carbon rod spars..
     
    ..also made a jig for each wing so the assembly is flat & true..
     

     
    ..started adding the ribs having reamed the holes to fit the spars as a tight fit..
     

     
    ..there is a loose rib yet to be attatched at the root so the root rib is double thickness..
     

     
    ..added the ribs to the tip as blanks and sanded them down, also added a folded litho trailing edge for a nice crisp edge..
     

     
     
    ..added lots of sheet strengtheners - even with these the wing doesn't have a great deal of torsional strength against twisting, so will have to watch for that..
     

     
     
    ..also added mounts for interplane struts and rigging... just thick 3mm card & brass tubes for now
     

     
     
    ..then realised I had not allowed for dihedral (doh...)
     
    ..so I put a slit in each spar and built a jig so I could crack them and CA at the right angle... once that was done I added a brass rib at the canted angle and backfilled with CA to surround the cracked spars - all seems strong enough thankfully..
     

     
     
    ..and now I have started experimenting with scoring ribs into sheet with a ballpoint pen in order to skin them... I will most likely do one big skin and wrap around the leading edge..
     

     
    ..this is all uncharted territory for me, so we will see how it goes
     
    TTFN
    Peter
     
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    airscale got a reaction from GROWLER 96 in 1/18 Hawker Fury   
    Thank you chaps - very kind
     
     
     
    Hi Alain - thanks - no, no clear finish, I almost want them to oxidise to give a bit of age to things
     
     
     
     
    Gotta call that out Ben - totally untrue! I have seen what you do and it scares me - you easily have this sort of stuff in your locker
     
    I thought I might change things up a bit having been in the 'pit for a few weeks (and while I search for pics or drawings of the ammo boxes / chutes...) so thought I might make a start on the lower wings. These are more simple than the uppers (no ailerons) so are better candidates to learn on..
     
    .. I copied the techniques in the Alcorn book - they made it look straightforward
     
    ..first up make a brass template of the rib - thankfully these are constant chord across the span until it gets to the tip.. the holes they are pinned through are the centrepoints of the two tubular spars and match the mounts on the brass tube fuselage section...
     

     
    after making about 30, they are put together as a laminated block (using broaches to align them), clamped and finished to all are identical.. as the book says, they were taken out and 'shuffled' a few times to get them equal..
     

     
     
    ..i created a drawing of the wing with the outline & rib position marked and then stuck lots of little plastic 'U' channel strips where each rib meets the leading edge. The leading edge itself was a bit of half round plastic strip..
     

     
     
    ...cut the tip shape from black plastic card so I can see the midpoint during sanding later and stuck those to carbon rod spars..
     
    ..also made a jig for each wing so the assembly is flat & true..
     

     
    ..started adding the ribs having reamed the holes to fit the spars as a tight fit..
     

     
    ..there is a loose rib yet to be attatched at the root so the root rib is double thickness..
     

     
    ..added the ribs to the tip as blanks and sanded them down, also added a folded litho trailing edge for a nice crisp edge..
     

     
     
    ..added lots of sheet strengtheners - even with these the wing doesn't have a great deal of torsional strength against twisting, so will have to watch for that..
     

     
     
    ..also added mounts for interplane struts and rigging... just thick 3mm card & brass tubes for now
     

     
     
    ..then realised I had not allowed for dihedral (doh...)
     
    ..so I put a slit in each spar and built a jig so I could crack them and CA at the right angle... once that was done I added a brass rib at the canted angle and backfilled with CA to surround the cracked spars - all seems strong enough thankfully..
     

     
     
    ..and now I have started experimenting with scoring ribs into sheet with a ballpoint pen in order to skin them... I will most likely do one big skin and wrap around the leading edge..
     

     
    ..this is all uncharted territory for me, so we will see how it goes
     
    TTFN
    Peter
     
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    airscale got a reaction from scvrobeson in PZL P.6 1931 from scratch scale 1/32   
    Marcin - if this was half scale I would be saying you have done an amazing job - the fact this is 1/32 just leaves me speechless
     
    every little detail is perfect - you are a highly disciplined perfectionist and it shows
     
    ..just looking at the prop & spinner as I have that challenge coming up at some point - how did you get such a flawless finish on both? I assume the spinner is wrapped & there is an invisible join somewhere?
     
    can't tell you how inspiring it is to see such talents on show
     
    Peter
  19. Like
    airscale got a reaction from scvrobeson in 1/18 Hawker Fury   
    Thank you chaps - very kind
     
     
     
    Hi Alain - thanks - no, no clear finish, I almost want them to oxidise to give a bit of age to things
     
     
     
     
    Gotta call that out Ben - totally untrue! I have seen what you do and it scares me - you easily have this sort of stuff in your locker
     
    I thought I might change things up a bit having been in the 'pit for a few weeks (and while I search for pics or drawings of the ammo boxes / chutes...) so thought I might make a start on the lower wings. These are more simple than the uppers (no ailerons) so are better candidates to learn on..
     
    .. I copied the techniques in the Alcorn book - they made it look straightforward
     
    ..first up make a brass template of the rib - thankfully these are constant chord across the span until it gets to the tip.. the holes they are pinned through are the centrepoints of the two tubular spars and match the mounts on the brass tube fuselage section...
     

     
    after making about 30, they are put together as a laminated block (using broaches to align them), clamped and finished to all are identical.. as the book says, they were taken out and 'shuffled' a few times to get them equal..
     

     
     
    ..i created a drawing of the wing with the outline & rib position marked and then stuck lots of little plastic 'U' channel strips where each rib meets the leading edge. The leading edge itself was a bit of half round plastic strip..
     

     
     
    ...cut the tip shape from black plastic card so I can see the midpoint during sanding later and stuck those to carbon rod spars..
     
    ..also made a jig for each wing so the assembly is flat & true..
     

     
    ..started adding the ribs having reamed the holes to fit the spars as a tight fit..
     

     
    ..there is a loose rib yet to be attatched at the root so the root rib is double thickness..
     

     
    ..added the ribs to the tip as blanks and sanded them down, also added a folded litho trailing edge for a nice crisp edge..
     

     
     
    ..added lots of sheet strengtheners - even with these the wing doesn't have a great deal of torsional strength against twisting, so will have to watch for that..
     

     
     
    ..also added mounts for interplane struts and rigging... just thick 3mm card & brass tubes for now
     

     
     
    ..then realised I had not allowed for dihedral (doh...)
     
    ..so I put a slit in each spar and built a jig so I could crack them and CA at the right angle... once that was done I added a brass rib at the canted angle and backfilled with CA to surround the cracked spars - all seems strong enough thankfully..
     

     
     
    ..and now I have started experimenting with scoring ribs into sheet with a ballpoint pen in order to skin them... I will most likely do one big skin and wrap around the leading edge..
     

     
    ..this is all uncharted territory for me, so we will see how it goes
     
    TTFN
    Peter
     
  20. Like
    airscale got a reaction from Out2gtcha in 1/18 Hawker Fury   
    Thank you chaps - very kind
     
     
     
    Hi Alain - thanks - no, no clear finish, I almost want them to oxidise to give a bit of age to things
     
     
     
     
    Gotta call that out Ben - totally untrue! I have seen what you do and it scares me - you easily have this sort of stuff in your locker
     
    I thought I might change things up a bit having been in the 'pit for a few weeks (and while I search for pics or drawings of the ammo boxes / chutes...) so thought I might make a start on the lower wings. These are more simple than the uppers (no ailerons) so are better candidates to learn on..
     
    .. I copied the techniques in the Alcorn book - they made it look straightforward
     
    ..first up make a brass template of the rib - thankfully these are constant chord across the span until it gets to the tip.. the holes they are pinned through are the centrepoints of the two tubular spars and match the mounts on the brass tube fuselage section...
     

     
    after making about 30, they are put together as a laminated block (using broaches to align them), clamped and finished to all are identical.. as the book says, they were taken out and 'shuffled' a few times to get them equal..
     

     
     
    ..i created a drawing of the wing with the outline & rib position marked and then stuck lots of little plastic 'U' channel strips where each rib meets the leading edge. The leading edge itself was a bit of half round plastic strip..
     

     
     
    ...cut the tip shape from black plastic card so I can see the midpoint during sanding later and stuck those to carbon rod spars..
     
    ..also made a jig for each wing so the assembly is flat & true..
     

     
    ..started adding the ribs having reamed the holes to fit the spars as a tight fit..
     

     
    ..there is a loose rib yet to be attatched at the root so the root rib is double thickness..
     

     
    ..added the ribs to the tip as blanks and sanded them down, also added a folded litho trailing edge for a nice crisp edge..
     

     
     
    ..added lots of sheet strengtheners - even with these the wing doesn't have a great deal of torsional strength against twisting, so will have to watch for that..
     

     
     
    ..also added mounts for interplane struts and rigging... just thick 3mm card & brass tubes for now
     

     
     
    ..then realised I had not allowed for dihedral (doh...)
     
    ..so I put a slit in each spar and built a jig so I could crack them and CA at the right angle... once that was done I added a brass rib at the canted angle and backfilled with CA to surround the cracked spars - all seems strong enough thankfully..
     

     
     
    ..and now I have started experimenting with scoring ribs into sheet with a ballpoint pen in order to skin them... I will most likely do one big skin and wrap around the leading edge..
     

     
    ..this is all uncharted territory for me, so we will see how it goes
     
    TTFN
    Peter
     
  21. Like
    airscale got a reaction from chukw in 1/18 Hawker Fury   
    Thank you chaps - very kind
     
     
     
    Hi Alain - thanks - no, no clear finish, I almost want them to oxidise to give a bit of age to things
     
     
     
     
    Gotta call that out Ben - totally untrue! I have seen what you do and it scares me - you easily have this sort of stuff in your locker
     
    I thought I might change things up a bit having been in the 'pit for a few weeks (and while I search for pics or drawings of the ammo boxes / chutes...) so thought I might make a start on the lower wings. These are more simple than the uppers (no ailerons) so are better candidates to learn on..
     
    .. I copied the techniques in the Alcorn book - they made it look straightforward
     
    ..first up make a brass template of the rib - thankfully these are constant chord across the span until it gets to the tip.. the holes they are pinned through are the centrepoints of the two tubular spars and match the mounts on the brass tube fuselage section...
     

     
    after making about 30, they are put together as a laminated block (using broaches to align them), clamped and finished to all are identical.. as the book says, they were taken out and 'shuffled' a few times to get them equal..
     

     
     
    ..i created a drawing of the wing with the outline & rib position marked and then stuck lots of little plastic 'U' channel strips where each rib meets the leading edge. The leading edge itself was a bit of half round plastic strip..
     

     
     
    ...cut the tip shape from black plastic card so I can see the midpoint during sanding later and stuck those to carbon rod spars..
     
    ..also made a jig for each wing so the assembly is flat & true..
     

     
    ..started adding the ribs having reamed the holes to fit the spars as a tight fit..
     

     
    ..there is a loose rib yet to be attatched at the root so the root rib is double thickness..
     

     
    ..added the ribs to the tip as blanks and sanded them down, also added a folded litho trailing edge for a nice crisp edge..
     

     
     
    ..added lots of sheet strengtheners - even with these the wing doesn't have a great deal of torsional strength against twisting, so will have to watch for that..
     

     
     
    ..also added mounts for interplane struts and rigging... just thick 3mm card & brass tubes for now
     

     
     
    ..then realised I had not allowed for dihedral (doh...)
     
    ..so I put a slit in each spar and built a jig so I could crack them and CA at the right angle... once that was done I added a brass rib at the canted angle and backfilled with CA to surround the cracked spars - all seems strong enough thankfully..
     

     
     
    ..and now I have started experimenting with scoring ribs into sheet with a ballpoint pen in order to skin them... I will most likely do one big skin and wrap around the leading edge..
     

     
    ..this is all uncharted territory for me, so we will see how it goes
     
    TTFN
    Peter
     
  22. Like
    airscale got a reaction from Landrotten Highlander in 1/18 Hawker Fury   
    Thank you chaps - very kind
     
     
     
    Hi Alain - thanks - no, no clear finish, I almost want them to oxidise to give a bit of age to things
     
     
     
     
    Gotta call that out Ben - totally untrue! I have seen what you do and it scares me - you easily have this sort of stuff in your locker
     
    I thought I might change things up a bit having been in the 'pit for a few weeks (and while I search for pics or drawings of the ammo boxes / chutes...) so thought I might make a start on the lower wings. These are more simple than the uppers (no ailerons) so are better candidates to learn on..
     
    .. I copied the techniques in the Alcorn book - they made it look straightforward
     
    ..first up make a brass template of the rib - thankfully these are constant chord across the span until it gets to the tip.. the holes they are pinned through are the centrepoints of the two tubular spars and match the mounts on the brass tube fuselage section...
     

     
    after making about 30, they are put together as a laminated block (using broaches to align them), clamped and finished to all are identical.. as the book says, they were taken out and 'shuffled' a few times to get them equal..
     

     
     
    ..i created a drawing of the wing with the outline & rib position marked and then stuck lots of little plastic 'U' channel strips where each rib meets the leading edge. The leading edge itself was a bit of half round plastic strip..
     

     
     
    ...cut the tip shape from black plastic card so I can see the midpoint during sanding later and stuck those to carbon rod spars..
     
    ..also made a jig for each wing so the assembly is flat & true..
     

     
    ..started adding the ribs having reamed the holes to fit the spars as a tight fit..
     

     
    ..there is a loose rib yet to be attatched at the root so the root rib is double thickness..
     

     
    ..added the ribs to the tip as blanks and sanded them down, also added a folded litho trailing edge for a nice crisp edge..
     

     
     
    ..added lots of sheet strengtheners - even with these the wing doesn't have a great deal of torsional strength against twisting, so will have to watch for that..
     

     
     
    ..also added mounts for interplane struts and rigging... just thick 3mm card & brass tubes for now
     

     
     
    ..then realised I had not allowed for dihedral (doh...)
     
    ..so I put a slit in each spar and built a jig so I could crack them and CA at the right angle... once that was done I added a brass rib at the canted angle and backfilled with CA to surround the cracked spars - all seems strong enough thankfully..
     

     
     
    ..and now I have started experimenting with scoring ribs into sheet with a ballpoint pen in order to skin them... I will most likely do one big skin and wrap around the leading edge..
     

     
    ..this is all uncharted territory for me, so we will see how it goes
     
    TTFN
    Peter
     
  23. Like
    airscale reacted to Ironwing in As an aside...   
    I ain't dead
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    airscale reacted to Marcin_Matejko in PZL P.6 1931 from scratch scale 1/32   
    Thank you for your appreciation, that's very kind of you
     
    This model is important and personal to me, so I try to make it good.
     
     
    This is thin aluminum foil, but much thicker than such a chicken baking foil. I bought it once at a model market, but I don't remember where, a product without a name.
     
    Engine done, even went quickly












     
     
     
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    airscale reacted to Flex66 in 1/32 P-51B   
    Thank you all for the comments.
     
    @Antonio Argudo
    I followed your work with great attention before starting mine. For the transparet parts I 'm considering clear acetate cutted to shape.
     
    @Johnny Cloud
    Well, what you correctly underlined is call "age"! I confused what I really have in my hand with my initimate whish!
     
    With this second post I  put in pair both forums.
    Arranged the frame and radios

     

     

     
    Cables, paint a fuselage closing.

     

     

     
     
    This model will have the engine not exposed because I do really want to enjoy her elegant silhouette. This create a problem with the exaust, as they should be glued to engine block.
    I made a template of exaust holes

     
    and replicated on 1mm plastic sheet

     
    then glued the exauts an cover

     

     
    All this block was glued inside the nose.

     

     
    A also cut out section with the wing fillet.
     
    I decided to try a metal foil cover for the fuselage and after many test I feel confortable with 0.2mm tin foil, heavy but flexible fot this first attempt.

     
    I started with epoxy glue 2 panels in order to have a solid straight pattern.

     

     
    I made a copy of the fuel fuselage cup with the coocking alu foil and glued it from backside

     
    The result

     

     


     

     
    Now  one of the herdest poit: wings.
    I carefully studied Antonio's work and the drawing that MikeMaben added (thank you!). I made 4 templates of the highlighted wing stations

     
    Cutted the kit wing root, inserted the templates and refined the whole as per scale plan

     

     

     

     

     
    Eduard set gun by for the revell kit adapted here

     
    and roughly ammo ejection holes

     
    Filled all panel lins with epoxy putty

     
    Final stage and forum paired

     

     
    Ciao
    Fabio
     
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