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#1 Jim Barry

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 11:01 PM

Ok, I know what you are saying..they do not make a 1/24th scale Hawker Fury.. and that's true. So, let's see if I can make one.  This is a dare of sorts because I've not done a scratch project of this size ever, though I have done a series of  five   1/144th  scale planes this past year all from scratch and with reasonable success across a wide range of planes from a tiny Bf-109 the size of a butterfly to a sizable 8" long P-3C Orion. I think I meet the basic prerequisites, though honestly anyone can do this (kindergartners with clay and wood are remarkably fearless artists). That said, there are also the great masters (Alcorn, Woodhouse, Lee etc)  that do this stuff too and we'll have to consider that like another world thing.  Anyway,  If I fail, it might be the dreadful distraction, project boredom and other barriers to seeing things through. It's pretty ambitious time wise (like a year??).   I'm armed with enthusiasm and a love for modeling that has spanned 4 decades (with many breaks of course as many of us  all know). I'm not a perfectionist type person and not trained things technical short of computer programming. I do have a very creative side and consider myself an artist without a real speciality. I dabble and I LOVE PLANES!!!!! 

 

Currently, I'm still researching the Fury with books on order, and a folder of growing images on my computer. I can't say it's like a dream plane but there seems to some content in the scratch world, typically pre WW2 where scratch works at this scale. I am getting to know it pretty well know over the few weeks,   so it's very likely to grow on me. I've started to test some methods for technique so in some sense I've started. The picture of the tail below is the third round if seeing how I like to work with "spars" and "canvas"  really before I get into it. I've got a little start on the cockpit shell going.  Playing around. 

 

As I said, the project is not fully laid out, but I'm pretty sure it'll be an exercise in solid forms for the fuselage mostly of styrene and filler and then a vacuformed shell to house the cockpit and engine. I'll perhaps panel the shell with thin metal tape and creative use of strips and Magic Sculpt and whatever comes to mind. 

 

If you are going to follow along,  I'd love the company.  I'll say sorry up front for how damn long this is going to take but I think this forum has a taste for it. The process is the fun, right? 

 

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 11:08 PM

Excellent project, Jim. So glad you've chosen to post it here. It definitely fits with what we like to see, and to be honest, a one-year time frame is pretty brief by our standards! It looks like you're off to a great start already, and I look forward to following along.

 

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 11:38 PM

Oh goodie! Love the ambition and looking forward to seeing how you tackle this one  :popcorn:

 

One year - that’s speed building in my book,

 

Best of luck,

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 01:04 AM

Nice,  one of my favorite airplanes


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#5 Jim Barry

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 01:49 AM

Thanks Kev, Torben, Ron

 

Glad you like it. It's one of those planes that are a little lost in the shuffle of aviation history but close inspection shows it was cutting edge for a plane on duty in the early 30's. They just had yet to figure out how to make an engine powerful enough to make a (production) monoplane work.   One can see a Hurricane just waiting to burst out of it, though. (or the Bf-109 about to be developed using its RR Kestrel engine) . 

 

Tonight's work was me realizing that one single form for the center fuselage was not a bad idea,  but then recognizing I'd be cutting it in half for the vacuforming I'd have  the styrene form dead center of the cut , and it made me think, perhaps I should just make a left and right form and not risk the cut. I love making the forms, so the more the merrier! 

 

 

 

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 07:30 AM

Wow! Looking forward to see this great project evolve. :goodjob:

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Posted 27 February 2017 - 03:32 AM

Lots of good time this weekend working on the forms, some which will be be final parts and those around the cockpit to be masters for vacuformed shells. A 1971 Scale Models Magazine came in the mail today from Ebay with an article  by John Woodman about how to scratch build a model  from plastic card. It was "progressive" then and still relevant today (if this is your bag and like old school).  

 

In project plan news, I decided to skip the engine which is kind of harsh but will be a huge time saver. I can't find a 1/24 Kestrel aftermarket.  I thought I could accept fitting a Merlin in there because no one (or few) could tell the difference, but in the end, I think I'd feel guilty about the swap. Were an engine required, like it was exposed or something, I would do it, but having to complete all it would take with and panel support and removable panels only to reveal to the few souls that will ever peer inside an imposter, just does not sit right.  This build is still somewhat of a trial effort. Someday I'll do an engine, I promise! 

 

 

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Posted 27 February 2017 - 06:37 AM

Great project :popcorn:

 

And a good decision about the engine. Besides the time and difficulty, removing cowling panels would only break the clean lines of the Fury, and this is what I personally would want to keep.

 

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Posted 27 February 2017 - 09:08 AM

Fantastic project Jim!! I admire anyone who wants to create something from nothing. I agree, leaving the engine out was a good move; I even did that in both my Tamiya spitfire and Mustang!

 

Really looking forward to seeing this evolve, especially your old school approach :)

 

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Posted 27 February 2017 - 10:55 AM

Jim, this looks like a brilliant project. When you say it'll take you a year ... my only comment is, why rush? ;)

Great work with what you've done so far. I will be watching with great interest.

Jim
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Posted 27 February 2017 - 10:23 PM

Hubert, Craig, Jim. Thanks for the compliments. Hubert I'm taking notes on your works and am certainly impressed! Jim,  your Hornet is incredible. Craig, I just picked up my jaw off the floor after seeing your B-17.   It's quite exciting to find such expertise and experience here. I'm coming around to the revised LSP way of looking at time and am willing to make a big trade for impact per model.


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Posted 28 February 2017 - 02:36 AM

Sanding down the Magic Sculpt to fit the forms in the rear fuselage. It's a dusty affair but I run the vacuum near my Dremel and sanding disc and that keeps it in check. More to go, but I'm almost there. 

 

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 01:30 PM

I just love this sort of ambition -and looks like you have made a great start already. I also hanker after one of these (or a Hector) just as an excuse to do a real polished metal litho cowling which I think will look stunning. If you think about going that way when the time comes, please let me know as would love to help out with advice / materials :)

 

watching with interest

 

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 01:44 PM

Peter thanks for joining in and the offers for guidance here. The all metal cowling is turning into my newest interest in the project and I think to do it in real metal will be impressive. I see Litho being used here  and am looking into it now.

 

Oh,  and now that I make the connections to your project I'm like getting feedback from a ROCKSTAR. Oh, that Spitfire is something else.


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Posted 28 February 2017 - 02:49 PM

   Why your half way there Jim,hard part is over.  once you make the jump with both feet that is.   :popcorn:  :popcorn:

          Seems to be a resurgence in "between the wars" aircraft,very welcomed too as there were some real beauties,anything Hawker. 


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