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evening all & thanks for stopping by :)

 

 

That engine is gorgous! This should be stunning to see. And it was a pleasure to meet you at Telford.

 

 

Thanks Ollie - it was great to meet you too - what a show, I just wish I could have seen more of it!

 

Hi Peter, the item you call 'cabin air' thingy is a Relief Valve with Generator, I bought a CD from www.fighter-plane-blueprints.co.uk and has some nice pictures of a Merlin Mk130, it shows that the H.P oil from thermometer bottle is attached to it, also oil feed from rear end.

Your picture is very close to the drawing I have.

I was going to post the pictures but thought it might be wrong to do so 

 

Great detail work  :thumbsup: 

 

Regards

Richard 

 

 

Thanks Richard - I should have looked it up as I have an excellent book on the Merlin 100 series engines from the Rolls Royce Heritage Trust which has many superb engineering drawings - I expect I will post a few on the way under fair use policy. I tend to photograph the drawings and photo's in books so I can have them on my laptop and zoom in on bits I am interested in. I connected the hoses to these parts today - some pics below...

 

 

Awsome work - and you haven't even had the kit for a week!

 

Jens

 

 

Thanks Jens - I haven't even started the kit yet! - this is all work on a Tamiya merlin from their P51 as I want one cowling open on the finished model showing the engine - I better crack on with the kit soon eh..

 

..anyways, only had a little bit of time today so got some of the pipes & hoses connected - I must spend more time in the manual as most of the time I don't know what I am connecting to what - I just build what I see..

 

..this lot for example - pipes made from car heat shrink tubing, fittings from albion alloys and bits of tape, PE or brass...

 

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...these are the connections Richard refered to - now all hooked up with lead wire and fittings...

 

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..and the bottom of the engine..

 

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..trouble with this sort of thing is knowing when to stop - there are so many hoses, wires, pipes and leads all over the place and thats just in the manuals where the engines are not connected to the aeroplane or many of the ancilliaries - I need to start getting the nacelle & bearers together next to try & work it all out..

 

TTFN

Peter

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Just incredible detailing on the big Merlin.Of course I don't want to be a sour note, but what happened to finishing the Sea Fury? Did I miss something?

Keep 'em coming

Peter

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I've got a lot of detail shots of the Merlin from a Mustang if you need any more Peter. Planes of Fame Museum down south had one on a maintenance stand, so I got a lot of shots of the pipes and hoses.

 

 

 

Amazing work so far. Wish I had your skills.  Where did you get all of the hoses and pipes from?  Is it all lead wire?

 

 

 

 

Matt  :frantic:

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evening ladies...

 

 

Peter

Just incredible detailing on the big Merlin.Of course I don't want to be a sour note, but what happened to finishing the Sea Fury? Did I miss something?

Keep 'em coming

Peter

 

 

Hi Peter, thanks for asking - the Sea Fury is waiting in the background as I am going to get a little more airbrush time under my belt before risking all my work with an amateur paint job. just want to build a little confidence and get more experience with Alclads

 

Where did you get all of the hoses and pipes from?  Is it all lead wire?

 

Matt  :frantic:

 

Hi Matt - thanks for the offer of pics - if I get stuck I will reach out to you. The hoses are some heat shrink car stuff I got from a US site (can't remember who) and the lead wire is from Telford - I also use albion alloys nickel tube for the fittings or to slide into the hoses and mount in drilled holes

 I also want to know where you find all those tiny nuts, bolts etc..

 

John

 

 

Hi John - these are all from Scale Hardware - I swear by them and have spent rather more than I should have with them..

 

 

right - anyone who has waited a long time as I have for a 1/32 Hornet, who has sat there and dreamt how fantastic it would be to have one kitted - it's modelling porn time...

 

..I started on the kit...

 

..here are one set of nacelle halves...

 

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..taped up with the spinner...

 

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..there is a slight step between the spinner and the nacelle - it won't matter on this one as all this will be cut away to expose the engine, but something to bear in mind for the other side..

 

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..checking how the merlin fits - all seems ok - it's too tight with the cylinder heads attatched but thats just the thickness of the resin casting..

 

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..I also roughly cut out the lower wing half and glad I did as I was going to finish the nacelle with the engine in it and fit it to the wing but I think there is too much working and fettling to be done so I am going to fit the nacelle and then mount the engine to it..

 

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..one issue is the u/c gear well is too shallow - you can see here the lower wing is solid - in fact in the real aircraft the top of the gear bay is the top surface of the wing - one to sort out later

 

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..I soon learnt one new thing about resin kits - it's a messy business - lots of grinding and dust and I have only cut out a few parts!

 

until next time my friends..

 

TTFN

Peter

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Way to go. One point to be very careful about with resin: the sanding dust - wear a mask or respirator - the resin dust is dangerous and unhealthy to breath in. When I'm working with resin cockpit tuns (Aires) I do the sanding outside just to be safe and still wear a mask.

Got ya on the Alclad. I'm slowly reaching the point of getting ready to paint my Mustang fuselage with Alclads and pretty soon, I'll be devoting myself to polishing, polishing and polishing. Then it's the Gloss Black undercoat. These are the keys to an awesome Alclad finish. You're so right - practice makes perfect and your Sea Fury, deserves nothing but the best!

Keep 'em coming

Peter

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Regards the step at the nacelle end, is this caused by part 52? Maybe you could take some material off the inside of the nacelle, join line, and perhaps even remove some material by cutting along some of the panel lines? I'm sure you'll find an elegant solution.

 

While trawling t'net I found this footage of 33 Sqn in Malaya

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHjyuhIVM1M

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thanks guys :)

 

yes, Peter I heard resin dust was bad for health so have a mask to wear - also wet sand where possible - thanks for the tip

 

so, what's been going on?

 

I have been hopping about the build a bit just sussing out what is what in the kit. It is superb I have to say.

 

If anyone talks of the Hornet in model terms, very soon the discussion turns to the nose. Only very recently were accurate profiles published in the D&V book, before that all published plans had dimensional errors and therefore the kits derived from them. There is still no published accurate plan available but John Adams from Aeroclub has been collecting drawings and is 5 years into creating the first set. Thankfully he helped me out over on a thread on BM with a nose profile so I have something to compare the kit to.

 

The HpH kit has a small issue in that the nose is not quite right compared to the profile (& pictures I now have).. you can see the profile rises too high into the windshield and is slightly 'plump' on the bottom curve..

 

..also the windshield should be virtually a straight line from the canopy sill..

 

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..i scaled a profile picture to see a bit more where I might improve it - it's not too clear here in the photo, but I can see it

 

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..first step was to sand away the top of the nose, and the base of the windshield - thankfully the HpH nose is solid resin so it's a simple job. I also got rid of the canopy rails as I will replace these with scale parts later...

 

 

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..obviously this also made the canopy the wrong shape to fit so a new one will be needed..

 

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..I decided to make a mock-up canopy so I can get all the geometry right before starting on the cockpit and coaming - first step cut out some parts from K&S clear sheet...

 

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..bevelled the facing edges and ran a sharpie along them so I can see the angles...

 

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..and ran thin CA along the joins to build it up - this is only a gash one so has glue & crap all over it :coolio:

 

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..and now the profile is starting to look more like it should..

 

..the windshield is not quite the right height of angle at the back, and I need to work out how the flat sides fair into the curved fuselage, but good enough for now - tThankfully David Collins is going to help me out with pics & dimensions..

 

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..thats all for now folks

 

TTFN

Peter

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