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#1 SteveM

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 07:17 PM

Well here we go... the first post of what will be a six month build.
I purchased the Airfix 1/24th scale FW 190 A/F for £40.
The kit was first moulded in 1981 and was reviewed in Scale Models.
Itís interesting to read the comments, praising features such as movable undercarriage and control surfaces when itís these that stop the kit from being a true replica.
A later review in Scale Aircraft Modelling gives an account of what needs to be done to bring the kit up to 1996 standards.
Weíre in 2009 so thereís yet more to do!
Iíve spent another £18 on metal and plastic tubing and strip to add details with as the spares box is light on 1/24th items.
Another £15 will be spent on etch pre-painted seat belts and decal swastikas, which are missing from the kit sheet.
The box art is quite lame, giving a Ďsoftí look the aircraft. This softness carries through to some of the kits parts!
Decals are nice and in register.
The first job is the cockpit. Iíll post some in progress pics soon.

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 07:43 PM

Steve,

Nice too see someone else have a go on this one. I am far from finished with the same kit, only the first mould.

http://forum.largesc...showtopic=20824

Cannot wait too see how yours is going too look!!

Rick.

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 06:29 PM

Godspeed! I don't think I would have the stamina to get past the cockpit and the wheelwells, but I'll follow your build to the bitter end!

Regards,

Jeroen

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 08:20 PM

After 2 hours work, I have a straight cockpit. The base plate is not square at the front firewall, pushing this part 2mm forward.
After reading Rickís posts and the kit reviews I have I know that the length of this assembly is critical.
Iíve decided to complete this kit with panels open, as one might see in the field.
Getting this thing together will be hard enough without making extra work for me!
Other details added at this stage are map pocket on right lower side and Iíve cut the slot for the
lever.
On the seat Iíve added the lip of the base tub as the kit item is a flat plate. Milliput pad is drying now.
Rudder pedals have been thinned and slots opened.
I now have to do some measuring. The whole tub looks to mount too far forward and too low.
Comparing it to a pair of Tamiya and Dragon 1/48 kits I have.
Back to the internet for confirmation!
This is going to be fun fun fun! :lol: :angry: :D

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 05:58 AM

A tip regarding trying to accurize the Airfix '190, the mid-fuselage and cockpit area are made over-wide to facilitate the opening canopy and removable pilot figure, so any efforts might be better in trying to make it look detailed, but bag real accuracy, unless you are prepared for major chopping. I'm doing an accuracy build, with an eye towards a correction set, but it takes substaintial butchery from the firewall to the fin tip to get it right.
And why do that if a Trumpeter '190A is coming?
Two reasons, the first is that if the Trumepter kit has anything in common with the previous '190D kit, so much of the kit will require so much work to correct, that the Airfix kit would almost be a better starting point.
The second point is that, regardless as to how bad a new Trump kit may be, there are tons of old Airfix/MPC/Heller releases of the old kit available and it can still be built up pretty well.

#6 SteveM

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 08:50 AM

all very true...
the way I see it, is why bother detailing a kit that does not look right in shape?
My plan is to carry out surgery on the fuse, dump all the 70's gimicks and add some detail.
Then paint it up well, I hope :huh:
I'll work to the motto "if it looks right, it's right enough!"
Then sit back and say "I made that" :)
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Posted 23 April 2009 - 07:14 PM

4 Hours in.
My nice straight cockpit needed cutting in two.
As it was the cockpit would be 18 scale inches too far forward but the firewall only 6.
The solution was too separate them and put a spacer panel in. This means that the joystick is now in the right place, as is the seat.
By removing the kit mounting guides and adding my own the firewall lines up with the spent shell chutes in the lower wing.
The engine and prop will also be further back so it should sit right in the cowls.
Time will tell. :rolleyes:
Iíve also thinned the rear fuse, using MAP plans to provide the correct width.
The seat now has a Milliput cushion.
Next... detail and paint the cockpit! :wub:
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Posted 24 April 2009 - 11:15 PM

looking good :blink: i see that you have a reference photo from the Fw 190 in USAF Museum in Ohio. whatever you do dont paint the rudderpedals and the stick white..this was done some years ago by some volunteers at the museum and its wrong..terrible wrong..they ruined the whole cockpit by painting over all original schilds and decals..and used a post it machine with terrible plasticstrips to remake the mint original schilds and decals they had painted over..in the back of the fuselage they sprayed the whole interior with USAF yellow and green without removing a single item..wires..radio and all was sprayed over..i think NASM ( that owns this Fw ) will be pretty mad when they see all the terrible things they did with this lovely bird in ohio..
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Posted 25 April 2009 - 11:16 AM

Hi Ju 88A1
thanks for the info.. It's hard to know whats what! :blink:
I've found this link here
do you know a site that shows the 'correct' cockpit colours?
I'm only applying the base greys so it's not too late to change :blink:
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Posted 25 April 2009 - 05:57 PM

the correct cockpitcolour should be rlm 66 ( same as in Ju 88 )
blackgrey :lol:
looking forward to see more on this build :lol:

here is a picture of the Fw 190 F8 in washington. thatone has a correct colour

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 05:59 PM

here is a cockpitpicture from the A3 under restoration..also correct cockpitcolour. i have no idea why the guys at USAF Museum painted those parts white.. but its as wrong as it can be..

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 06:34 PM

thanks for the info.
the colours I've used look to be same.
I'll post a pic when paint's complete. :lol:
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Posted 09 May 2009 - 02:44 PM

Here are some pics of my painted cockpit. The colour is a mix of Tamiya greys.
Details picked out in enamels.
Not sure if leather seat pad was red but it adds a bit of colour!
Rudder pedal straps have been added from Reheat etch .
Only problem is... the firewall does not fit the fuselage. :P
I think Iím going to separate it from the cockpit floor, add a plastic card one. Then fit the cockpit and firewall/gun deck as two assemblies. This will allow me to fill the gaps without damaging the cockpit.
A bit like the Eduardís 1/48th kit.

Talking of Eduard, I think Iíll use their instrument bezels if I build another of these. Airfix have made a good effort but detail is soft.
This only came to light when I dry brushed them.
Iíve started cleaning up the engine parts and working out how to do that wheel bay!
Thatís it for now ;)
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Posted 17 May 2009 - 04:33 PM

While waiting for yet more paint on the cockpit to dry I was looking through the colour plates in the Ospray FW 190 Aces of the Western Front.
Thereís an illustration of the Hermann Graf A5 that Iím building ;)
It shows a modification to the lower cowl bulge :o
They claim the cooling duct is modified due a two stage supercharger being fitted, looking a bit like that fitted to the A3/ U7 (below)
Iíve read elsewhere that Hermann Gaff was posted to a unit (Stab/JG 50) tasked with challenging the high and fast RAF Mosquitoes so this would make sense.
However, the A3/U7 only carried 2 x MG151.
Questions:
1) What did Grafís A5 cowl look like?
2) What did the superchager look like? (the cowls will be open on my kit!)
2) Did it only carry the two MG151?

If anyone can help, Iíd be grateful! ;)
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 07:28 PM

Still detailing the cockpit... ho hum.. still loads of parts in the box.
Just starting to wonder why I started, :P then found this... :(

FW 190A WarBird
Off to cut some plastic. ;)
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