Kagemusha Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Cheers John, look forward to reading the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy 1 VX 4 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Thanks Tigger Did they fix the crank case behind the props Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puncher 75 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 (edited) Thanks Tigger Did they fix the crank case behind the props There are two different crankcases and magneto's in the kit. The spares look like F-4U Corsair parts if I'm not mistaken. They have supplied the correct parts for the engines. http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig20/10208791n3.jpg Cheers, Ken Edited March 29, 2013 by Puncher 75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted March 29, 2013 Author Share Posted March 29, 2013 (edited) There are two different crankcases and magneto's in the kit. The spares look like F-4U Corsair parts if I'm not mistaken. They have supplied the correct parts for the engines. http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig20/10208791n3.jpg Cheers, Ken I don't see the correct crankcase cover for the Black Widow in that shot. The P-61 had a cylindrical cover the same diameter as the base of the spinner over the crankcase. See here: http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=244738&view=findpost&p=2329296 The kit instructions show a common bullet shaped crankcase cover. http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10208791z12/70/12 Edited March 29, 2013 by Dave Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted March 29, 2013 Author Share Posted March 29, 2013 Looking at the kit on Hobby Search, and references, I think the best thing is to simply cut off the part of the fuselage forward of the nose wheel well and build the kit as an A model. Kits World has two sheets for A models, 132018 for OD/NG P-61A-1s (misidentified as B models on the sheet), and 132020 for black A-5s. Derek B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Looking at the kit on Hobby Search, and references, I think the best thing is to simply cut off the part of the fuselage forward of the nose wheel well and build the kit as an A model. Kits World has two sheets for A models, 132018 for OD/NG P-61A-1s (misidentified as B models on the sheet), and 132020 for black A-5s. Seems like an easy fix. Tim W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) Had a book arrive yesterday and today: The Osprey book - I paid £4.99 on Ebay and it's OK (but not brilliant) - especially if you want to replicate the nose art from one of the depicted airframes... And Northrop's Night Hunter by Jeff Kolln - £19.27 from Amazon and looks an excellent book!! May even give me enough info to do an F-15A conversion (need another P-61 kit! ) Just need my kit to arrive now - has been delayed Iain Edited April 3, 2013 by 32SIG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 As to the kit being a confused A/B - it seems to me that it's actually the ideal solution - very easy to convert to either an A or B - so win-win! Iain Uncarina and Kagemusha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunwinglow Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Iain, thank goodness, someone looking on the positive side!! 10 house points to you.... Tim KOTR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eoyguy Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Iain, thank goodness, someone looking on the positive side!! 10 house points to you.... Tim Agreed I was thinking that its probably better for them economically that they released the kit with the longer fuselage, even if everything else detail wise is for an A version. For many people, the extra 6mm means nothing and they will build it whichever way suits them. Its easier to remove the 6mm to make it an A than it would be to add 6mm to make it a B, and while they may release an A with a shorter fuselage, they may well not change it so you would get basically whats in this box with different decals. If I were them I might add a cutting template/guide and let the modeler decide if they want to remove the extra 6mm or not as opposed to all new tooling for a shorter fuselage. So I will take the extra 6mm and remove it myself. The nose cone and other details that are different between versions are things that are more easily changed than an entire new fuselage sprue. Sure we can lament all day that they called it a B when its more A, but thats OK. I'm sure the resin guys are churning out details, decals and corrections for it as we speak. Considering there are tons of kits out there that get resin aftermarket bits when what is in the box is completely acceptable and accurate, at least in this case the aftermarket stuff is more justified. The lack of exhausts is a stumper, though. Saber 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 If I were them I might add a cutting template/guide and let the modeler decide if they want to remove the extra 6mm or not as opposed to all new tooling for a shorter fuselage. There is - It's called a panel line! I do agree that this is still a good kit and I can't wait to get one - eventually It's not perfect, but nor is it a non-starter either. The (known visible) issues are relatively easy to fix and I am certain that we are going to see some stunning builds from this kit (look what Tigger did with his Trumpeter Ju 87B Stuka). I have been waiting a long time for this kit, so I shall correct whatever is required to make it right. ...Bring on the Widow... Derek Saber 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan_c3 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 eoyguy, You could do Suffy's 'Time's A wastin' P-61A ('595') from the kit by simply shortening the the fuselage nose by a scale 8" and build it as per the kit instructions (BTW, the photograph below is a P-61A, not a P-61B as stated). I have not seen a photograph of the oft dipicted P-61B ('405') of the same name, but that is also 'doable'. HTH Derek FWIW, in regards to the 418NFS I've seen this reference to the 418 NFS fin stripe being blue rather than as often shown in artwork and box art as red. http://www.internetmodeler.com/2001/october/galleria/widow-2.htm http://www.network54.com/Forum/149674/thread/1257121159/Another+P-61+question. I tried to obtain a copy of Stan Logan's book on the 418NFS but it's OOP. Be great if the color photo of Wanda'er surfaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 FWIW, in regards to the 418NFS I've seen this reference to the 418 NFS fin stripe being blue rather than as often shown in artwork and box art as red. http://www.internetmodeler.com/2001/october/galleria/widow-2.htm http://www.network54.com/Forum/149674/thread/1257121159/Another+P-61+question. I tried to obtain a copy of Stan Logan's book on the 418NFS but it's OOP. Be great if the color photo of Wanda'er surfaces. Hello Spartan, My understanding is that the stripe is blue as well. Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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