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#31 Darren Howie

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Posted 06 May 2016 - 02:03 AM

Really looking forward to picking up a couple of these F-4C/D sheets.

Would love to see some Greek and Japanese F-4's I just love the weathering options on the Greeks and the insane markings on the JASF Phantoms.

An Air Combat Meet sheet would be an option with many squadrons offering a common set of shark teeth an them individual splitter markings making multiple aircraft available the way platz id in 48th.

But for spectacular the JASDF does F-4's way beyond spectacular just a pity they would be difficult to decal in 32nd.

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Those are the tip of the iceberg.

 

Air combat meet stuff.

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So many Phantoms so little time!


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#32 thierry laurent

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Posted 06 May 2016 - 08:11 AM

Hi,

Don't forget Zotz already released a terrific Kai anniversary scheme (32023). If my memory is right, the air combat meet with the huge nose art markings have been released by Phoenix. CAM had also at least two F-4EJ schemes and the blue scheme was released by Wolfpack.

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#33 Darren Howie

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Posted 10 May 2016 - 01:27 PM

You are correct already have the awesome Zotz dragon scheme!
I have thecPhoenix sheets but the quality is a bit iffy and I will test a decal or two as I am suspect on the quality of the decals.
Printing is fine but suspect of the paper they used.
The 30th Anniversary scheme was released by Hasegawa in 72nd but never done in 48th or 32nd which is a massive pity!
Also Hasegawa has stopped releasing special schemes in 48th which is bizarre as they all sold out almost immediately or prior to release.
People bought the kits as fast as they made them yet they stopped?
Hope to see DXM do some in 32nd!

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Posted 27 May 2016 - 09:00 AM

BUMP!!!



#35 thierry laurent

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Posted 27 May 2016 - 11:45 AM

Why "bump"?

 

Things are simply progressing behind the scene. I received an email of Eli today about the set... Patience is a virtue... ;-)



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Posted 31 May 2016 - 08:52 AM

Those JASDF Anniversary markings are truly AWESOME!

Hopefully one day we'll get some of them in decal form.

Thanks for sharing.   


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Posted 03 June 2016 - 03:26 PM

I always thought the "Good Bye Okinawa" scheme was good looking

 

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Posted 03 June 2016 - 09:16 PM

The fact that they're still (just about) out there appeals immensely with JASDF Phantoms.

I'd like a "groovy blues" RF-4EJ (perhaps next year)...

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Watching too much Woody Wwodpecker when I was just a kid, I guess!

Tanmodel here we go

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#39 Darren Howie

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Posted 06 June 2016 - 12:11 AM

Would love any JASDF RF stuff including a rounded nose conversion for it.
GT are you listening? Lol
Some cook nose art on those RF's in Japan.
The cool thing is the Japanese have been banging out these special schemes for 30 years so there is a huge selection.

Edited by Darren Howie, 06 June 2016 - 12:13 AM.


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Posted 08 June 2016 - 10:45 AM

anyone could tell me a heavy loadout for the F-4D "The Saint"?

2x GBU-10s + 4x AIM-9Es at the same time on the inner wing pylons was possible?


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Posted 09 June 2016 - 11:46 AM

Not very probable unfortunately.

 

If you want to use LGBs on a SEA plane, the most probable AtoA load is two Sparrows in the rear bays and sometimes four Sparrows were carried. I have never seen F-4Ds in SEA with LGBs and Sidewinders.

 

Moreover the GBU-10 Paveway II was commonly used AFTER the end of the Vietnam war. Note that as far as I know during the SEA war the LGBs did not have the official Paveway I designation and seem to have been called Mk XX LGB or BOLT-XX (XX being for instance 84 or 117). The big LGBs you see on some pictures were the bombs that were designated GBU-11/B after the war end. Some rarer photos show two GBU-1B LGB on the side mountings of TERs but such initial LGBs bombs were not use for long. I should check but think two GBU-11s were available in the Hasegawa F-16 kits.

 

In fact, any F-4D could be used to drop laser bombs. This occurred more and more often late in the war, from 1972, when Phantom planes were mainly based in Thailand. However, common F-4Ds could not illuminate the target. They required the rear cockpit sill-mounted AVQ-9 device (the so-called "Zot Box"), the AVQ-10 Pave Knife pod or help from another plane such as an AC-130 or OV-10. If my memory's right, only a dozen of F-4Ds were modified to be LGB illumination capable before Linebacker. The rear pit got an additional small Sony 5 inch TV display close to the WSO's right console allowing the use of the Pave Knife pod. Ubon's 433rd Satan's Angels  (FG tail code) tested such laser pods in 1971-72. In 1972, the 497th TFS F-4Ds (FP tail code) also used some LGBs. The Pave Spike laser pod only appeared just after the ceasefire in 1973.

 

Last, at this phase of the war, it was also common to use an ALQ-87 or ALQ-101 for self-protection.

 

Conclusion, if you want an heavy LGB-based load, I would try to find two GBU-11s, use three or four Sparrows, the two wing drop tanks and one ECM pod in the front left Sparrow bay or under the central pylon.

 

Hth

 

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Posted 09 June 2016 - 05:10 PM

thanks Thierry, who makes ALQ-101 in 1/32 scale?

had TERs together with Sidewinders been used during the Vietnam War by "The Saint"? Which bombs (or rocket launchers) were hanged up TERs?


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Posted 09 June 2016 - 05:37 PM

GT released all ALQ-101 marks with decals.

Common loads on TERs were slick Mk 82 or snakeyes. The kit ones are Ok and Videoaviation has nice snakeyes. MK 117 were a little bit less common on F-4Ds but are another possibility. You may also put rocket pods such as Videaviation LAU-3 on TERs but this was not very common late in the war as this was rather used earlier for close support. This is the kind of load you saw more commonly on Marines mud movers.

Hth

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Posted 10 June 2016 - 07:25 AM

Videoaviation has nice snakeyes. MK 117 were a little bit less common on F-4Ds but are another possibility

 

love these huge bombs... for the AIM-9s? D or E version? thx



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Posted 10 June 2016 - 07:33 AM



GT released all ALQ-101 marks with decals.

 

V1, V3 or V4? Better option for the F-4D Saint?

 

http://www.ebay.it/i...wgAAOSwCQNWeeLc






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