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#31 gfiend

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Posted 16 December 2016 - 02:41 AM

Great to see this kit being modelled. It's no small undertaking (I have my own on the work bench which has taken second place to my Trumpeter 1/16 King Tiger - both really big projects) but a very impressive project. Seeing your build come together could well get my inspiration going again.

One thing I would suggest is to make sure you get the fuselage halves matching first at the join line and then get the formers to fit correctly. You can see what I mean if you have a look at my build progress to date over at the Large Scale Modeller WIP forum.

All the best

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 12:43 AM

is this the 600 dollar kit..all resin kit highly detailed.?

Having just received my HPH Helldiver - I can tell you, the detail is some of the best I have ever seen. I do not regret a single cent of this purchase and I'm sure The Catalina is just as nice.


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Posted 26 January 2017 - 05:57 PM

So Gent's I'm in a bit of predicament here...

 

I really could use your views on this. I'm planning to do the PBY as a part cutaway, I do not want to close everything up, like i did with the B-25J.

I think the PBY deserves better, because of it's great interior. But I'm not sure how to do it. I do not want to make it all open, as the HPH Cutaway

Model Kit., but doing it more with some openings in the fuselage. The big question is: Where to cut? And how? 

 

I have made a sketch on a three dimensional drawing of a PBY, but I'm not sure at all...

 

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Have you seen a build which does this in a nice way? I'm afraid I won't get started on the build as long as I'm not completely sure how to do the cutting.

Please feel free to comment...

 

Regards: Kent


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2017 builds:

S.e.5a - No 74 'Tiger' Squadron, Clairmarais 1918, Diorama. http://forum.largesc...topic=68923&hl=

De Havilland Mosquito B Mk IV (FPU) - Diorama. http://forum.largesc...topic=67555&hl=


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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:11 PM

I'm sure its been mentioned before but the cutaway PBY on display at the NMNA seemed like a good example to study for some ideas.

 

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:16 PM

Hi Kent,

 

Really looking forward to seeing how you get on with this... I assume you’ve checked out the Cutaway Catalina at NAS Pensacola

 

http://www.pbyrescue...utaway over.htm

 

Some great reference on http://www.pbyrescue...tos/cutaway.htm

 

Torben


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Posted 26 January 2017 - 09:34 PM

Hi Kent,

 

Really looking forward to seeing how you get on with this... I assume you’ve checked out the Cutaway Catalina at NAS Pensacola

 

http://www.pbyrescue...utaway over.htm

 

Some great reference on http://www.pbyrescue...tos/cutaway.htm

 

Torben

 

 

I'm sure its been mentioned before but the cutaway PBY on display at the NMNA seemed like a good example to study for some ideas.

 

-d-

 

Thanks David and Torben. Yes I'm well aware of the Pensacola PBY Cutaway, and it's a great inspiration for this build.

Allthough it's a PBY and not a PBY-5a, so the big wheel well, I'm guessing, is posing some kind of a problem.

 

Well, It's also more about the technique for the modelling cutaway itself, doing big 'cloudformation' cutaways or following panellines. in some way...

 

Kent


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2017 builds:

S.e.5a - No 74 'Tiger' Squadron, Clairmarais 1918, Diorama. http://forum.largesc...topic=68923&hl=

De Havilland Mosquito B Mk IV (FPU) - Diorama. http://forum.largesc...topic=67555&hl=


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Posted 27 January 2017 - 12:04 AM

I can only speak for myself as to how I would approach this problem, which I have thought about for my build.  Much like what Radu did for his Zoukei Mura Ho 229.  For what it is worth, I would think about working along the panel lines first, then consider rivet lines, though hesitantly.  For panel lines, the panels would be able to be relocated onto the model in a rather seamless manner.

 

The reason for along rivet lines is so interior structure could be a support for the panel.  I have not checked to see if interior structure aligns with the rivet lines.

 

The vertical stabilizer and wing structure you'll need to build, as the kit doesn't come with either, but that shouldn't be a problem as your skill set is advanced.  Maybe HpH can sell you some stabilizer interior structure?  The cut-away kit wing doesn't go out as far as you've shown.

 

I like the linear look.  To me, the cloud concept looks unnatural.

 

Others mileage nay vary.

Sincerely,

Mark


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Posted 28 January 2017 - 11:11 AM

Can't wait to see this done, they are one of the best Cat's about imo!

 

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 02:52 AM

I'm loving your build, as this kit is sitting in my stash, beckoning me to her...
Personally, I'm looking real close at civilian Cats, especially those used for many many years fighting fires in Canada.


Old Cats and Cansos soldiered on for decades, doing some dirty nasty work and generally being used till they gave it up, then scrapped out for replacement airframes and pushed or bulldozed back into the woods to sink into the muskeg. Plenty of old a Cats died fighting fires up there, and plenty remain up there, tore up into twisted junk.

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 08:05 AM

It's a matter of personal taste, but I would definitely NOT do a cutaway - it would be a shame to cut this nice kit into pieces .


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Posted 30 January 2017 - 03:04 PM

Starfighter, I agree with you on that one.


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Posted 30 January 2017 - 03:31 PM

My Holy Grail of kits - I'll be watching closely!


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Posted 30 January 2017 - 09:05 PM

Have to say, some of those Civvie Cats look lovely Ernie!

 

Tough call on the cutaway, I spent a couple of hours looking through my kit yesterday and it is truly magnificent, and seems a shame to hide all that detail. However I am not a huge fan of cutaways.  If you were to then I would go along the panel line route.

 

You know, I have never seen a pic of one of these finished, I did a google search yesterday and came up with nothing.  However I guess there is a few years work in this kit and I am sure you would need a break to relieve the intensity of the build from time to time. 

 

Cheers

Anthony


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#44 Clunkmeister

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 09:19 PM

Agreed, Anthony. The Cat was produced in Canada, so there were plenty around for many years, and in all types of livery as well...


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Posted 30 January 2017 - 10:20 PM

I can tell you, this project is a massive undertaking and I want to be sure of what I'm doing before getting started on this 'beast'.

There's also a bit of, what artists call 'fear of the blank canvas' - So all of your comment's are most welcome and they are all being considered ;-)

 

One of the decisions I will have to make, is which version to do. 

 

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1) L-857 PBY-5A Catalina FSN Karup 1953, dark blue overall...

 

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2) L-852 PBY-5A Catalina 'Papoose' Greenland 1955

 

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3) Or... Taking it all the way, converting it into a PBY-6A, L-861 Greenland ca. 1965...

 

 What do you think? Kent


Edited by kkarlsen, 30 June 2017 - 10:42 AM.

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2017 builds:

S.e.5a - No 74 'Tiger' Squadron, Clairmarais 1918, Diorama. http://forum.largesc...topic=68923&hl=

De Havilland Mosquito B Mk IV (FPU) - Diorama. http://forum.largesc...topic=67555&hl=






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