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#16 Tinbanger

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 11:10 PM

That's no ejector seat - it's a rocking chair!   :D

 

Will be following this one, what are your initial thoughts on the kit?

Hi Mark

This kit has fine surface details, any ejector pin flash so far has been on the back of the parts and easy to clean off.


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 11:55 PM

Hi Mark

This kit has fine surface details, any ejector pin flash so far has been on the back of the parts and easy to clean off.

 

Rich,

  That's really encouraging to hear about a KH kit.

 

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 07:23 AM

Richard,

Any marking option you've already put your eye on?

 

I've got a couple of the F-86K and F-86D boxings in my stash...and currently one D on my bench. Nice kit, great details. Fits way better than expected. In contrast, the instructions of the "Kilo" in particular are a mess...crawling with mistakes, omissions and misleading information.

 

Erik


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 12:24 PM

Hi Erik
I like the looks of the German camouflage.
The instructions are clear but sprue E parts are actually on sprue G!
Plan right now is to build as if aircraft is being serviced with engine out, shame to build then hide
all the details.
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Posted 20 April 2017 - 06:12 PM

Maybe some useful info as to "Marking Option A":

 

KH's Assembly instructions in general

STEP 13/STEP 15 - contrary to the instructions devised by KH, nose landing gear doors, main landing gear wheel doors and landing gear strut doors (G27, G28) were unpainted.

 

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STEP 22: Just in case... No Winders on German F-86K!

 

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Port fuselage half - remove TACAN antenna on the radar equipment access cover.

TACAN antenna absent on French and German aircraft throughout their service life.

Initially, early Italian and Norwegian Kilos also lacked them but had the antennas retrofitted during the very early 1960s.

 

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NACA intakes vs "Sugar Scoop" intakes

"As is", NACA style intakes on the rear intermediate fuselage (both sides):

 

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Note:

Royal Norwegian AF and early Italian AF F-86K from the MM53**** and MM54**** serial range had the NACA intakes.

 

 

"Sugar Scoop" intakes as found on French, German and Italian MM55**** serialled F-86K:

 

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Note:

No respective parts provided by KH.

 

Fix:

eduard "F-86K exterior 1/32" #32389 (contains photo-etched Sugar Scoops)

or

eduard "BIG ED F-86K 1/32" #BIG3368 (the full monty, also comprising item #32389)

 

 

Marking & Painting Guide

KH reproduced the distribution of "Gelboliv" on the upper wings incorrectly.

For comparison, tactical camouflage scheme of German AF F-86K:

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Aerial shot of JD-352:

 

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Note:

Additional info regarding plastic and laminated glass fabric strctures applicable to all F-86D/L/K aircraft.

 

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Shot of JD-354 taxiing:

 

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HTH

Erik


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 06:44 PM

Eric,

  Nice corrections followed with an overall picture of the real aircraft with those air ducks.  :goodjob: 

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:48 PM

Excellent post, Erik!

 

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:52 PM

Thank you Erik for the information that you have shared!!!
I can see that the LSP site will help elevate me to a higher standard of modelling!
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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:32 PM

Thank you Erik for the information that you have shared!!!
I can see that the LSP site will help elevate me to a higher standard of modelling!

 

Richard,

  You're 100% correct on that assumption.

 

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:13 PM

After spending time try to figure how to fab the "Sugar Scoops" I have just placed an order for Eduards Big Ed set.

Scoops included plus masks and interior/ exterior PE.


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:26 PM

After spending time try to figure how to fab the "Sugar Scoops" I have just placed an order for Eduards Big Ed set.

Scoops included plus masks and interior/ exterior PE.

 

Rich,

  That's one way to handle it, just on the expensive side, but you do get a "ton" of PE parts. There are AM intake scoops sold for other jets that could have been massaged to shape, or you could have made your own from sheet, which almost never works for me. Posting for suggestions on how to go about it almost always turns up some good ideas such as a AM set to even an offer to send you the scoops from their spares box.

 

Joel


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 11:16 PM

Here's a question: why are they called "sugar scoops"? Seems an odd name to me.

 

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 11:20 PM

Hi Joel!
Past experience with forming thin styrene to tight bends and also tapered plus making two the same, not up for this right now..
I also thought about plung moulding or using left over PE if I had enough in my spare box.
The model was a review sample sent to me so no cost up front so l am ok buying the after market set.
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Posted 22 April 2017 - 12:22 AM

Rich,

  Completely agree. The price was more then right, so as you said, any addtional costs are still way below the retail price of the kit. Looking forward to your PE party. :party0023: 

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 05:59 AM

Here's a question: why are they called "sugar scoops"? Seems an odd name to me.
 
Kev


I wondered that too. I first heard the term when referring to the bottom scoops on Orenda engined Canadair Sabres
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