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#16 Starfighter

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Posted 03 April 2017 - 06:06 AM

Great project, can't wait to see how this is going to turn out!


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Posted 03 April 2017 - 06:51 AM

Wow isn't a big enough word !!!

 

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 12:49 PM

Starfighter, it's all because of you :) I have to try to even the score at the next model show :)

 

I started the A-7 by cutting and dry fitting some resin

 

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The BB cockpit seems decent enough and doesn't cause any fit issue this far. By the looks of it it should fit in the fuselage pretty nicely.
Looks like it has the early escapac seat though so I'm in the market for a late seat/ Luckily quickboost have them so it shouldn't be too hard to get one.

It's a shame really because the escapac seat even fits the ejection seat rails of the resin cockpit :)

 

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The intake lip from Zactoman seem easy enough to install as well.  The nose might be a bit harder to install - especially saving the refuelling receptacle, 

 

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As I said I don't have the full Zacto intake so I'll cut the kit's parts and adapt the Zactoman lip.

First thing to do for that is to fill the moulding pins inside the intake trunk. 


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Posted 08 April 2017 - 01:04 PM

I'm not really a fan of in-flight models, but this WIP i wanna follow, just because i am really curious how you gonna tackle this whole in-flight diorama.

 

All ready great progress achieved  :goodjob:

 

Greetz

 

Danny


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Posted 08 April 2017 - 01:20 PM

I'm not really a fan of in-flight models, but this WIP i wanna follow, just because i am really curious how you gonna tackle this whole in-flight diorama.

 

I'm into an in-flight trend with my models for the moment :) After all aircraft are meant to be in the air. 

The corsair really looks heavy and grumpy on the ground, it's much more sleek airborne imho.

 

Some examples

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1/48 F-16

 

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1/48 Rafales

 

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1/32 F-18

 

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1/32 EF2000

 

That said I don't know how I'll handle this one yet. 

The corsair will probably be very low on a long thin base and the intruder will need to be high, So the real challenge is going to be on the intruder side.

I'll obviously have to use 2 poles, one for each aircraft. 

The whole trick is to work with their center of gravity and maintain dynamic stances of the supporting poles. I usually use tranparent acrylics, but here I'll need something stronger.


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Posted 08 April 2017 - 01:58 PM

This man thinks BIG, I like that.  Can't wait to see how this one pans out.   :blink:


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Posted 08 April 2017 - 03:54 PM

Wow! Will be an impressive one!

And great start!!!!  :thumbsup:


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#23 Lenny320

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 03:57 PM

I'm looking forward to seeing this build.
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Posted 09 April 2017 - 04:58 PM

I just spotted the project.

The one and only - RedDog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:punk:  :punk:  :punk:  :punk:


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Posted 09 April 2017 - 05:24 PM

That is going to be really awesome and big!! I know you're not far along but are you going to use a desert picture for the ground? And I thought my 72nd KC-135A and E-3A refueling project would be big! Ha....haven't started on that one yet!


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Posted 11 April 2017 - 06:10 AM

Thanks for following gents

 

I'm not sure I'll use a picture of the ground. I'm very bad at such scaling effect and I mostly look at my models from the side and not quite from above. 

I usually keep my base simple and minimalist.

 

Hey Mitko aka Eagle Driver, glad to see you in here mate :)


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Posted 11 April 2017 - 06:16 AM

And this is why i love this forum.
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Posted 11 April 2017 - 06:58 AM

This is going to be  AWESOME!!!

I love the in flight displays, that F/A-18 landing looks amazing, but I'm looking forward to this new build.


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Posted 11 April 2017 - 05:37 PM

I would go for a set up just like your lovely Rafales

 

keep it simple yet sturdy and its doesn't distract from the models that way..

 

Cheers

Fred

 

Ooh and BTW Nutter...but I like it very much...


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currently building; 32nd scale vipers

 


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Posted 15 April 2017 - 06:53 AM

Yep Fred, it's a proven support design for a refuelling.

 

Progress has been slow this week.(I'm a weekend modeller)

 

As per Zacto's instruction I cut 0.225 inches of the kit's forward intake trunk. 

 

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With 0.225' out I still had a few clearance issue of the intake trunk and zacto's part mainly on the nose. The trunk was still a bit too long to fit correctly.

The intake trunk is held in place in the fuselage by 4 alignement holes, so the cut has to be precise.
Careful sanding of the forward trunk will then be required until fitting is acceptable

 

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With dryfitting you clrearly realise the purpose of the adaptor's part in resin. It's meant to shape correctly the internal trunk to the new mounth of the intake? Very clever.

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I'll glue first the trunk to the resin part and let it set in a clamp to ensure it takes the shape correctly. Then the fun sanding part will begin.

 

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Dryfitting the resin tub pointed to a conflict between the trunk and the resin cockpit at the back end. No big deal, the resin can be easily adjusted to clear the intake trunk.

 

I don't have a lot of detail pictures for the A-7 so I quickly sourced the mini Fox2 book over A-7 in Hellenic AF. (FTM002) 

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Although it's greek sluffs, part of them are A-7E and there are some interesting pictures in there. Great modeller reference.

Beside it reminded me how found I actually am of that airframe and I might even be tempted to build a greek weathered bomb truck :)


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