Darren Howie Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 What Jennings said. The Hasegawa kit for 1/6th the price can be turned into a stunner. The Italeri kit will be fine under camo but if your thinking of doing natural metal i woukd really go Hasegawa. Shape wise to my eye both are fine. If you remove the raised lines on the Has kit then multi panel paint it in metal it will look stunning. This build is stunning using the Hasegawa kit, buy yourself a burner can, a cockpit and your done. http://www.hyperscale.com/2009/galleries/f104g32pc_1.htm Italeri kit will give you a fine result for a much bigger price, it still needs a resin burner and cockpit plus if you intend natural metal the large panel lines will give yiu a huge job to make them look decent. Camo woukd be fine. dmthamade and Eagle Driver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmthamade Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 What Jennings said. The Hasegawa kit for 1/6th the price can be turned into a stunner. Italeri kit will give you a fine result for a much bigger price, it still needs a resin burner and cockpit plus if you intend natural metal the large panel lines will give yiu a huge job to make them look decent. That is a fantastic build, but i don't have the talent, and as said before, life is too short. Cost is higher, but i would finish the Italeri kit, the Hasegawa kit i would destroy trying to scribe. For me, Italeri is good. IMHO the Italeri kit is better.... Don Youngtiger1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Driver Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 I dont really understand which informations you are looking for. Compliance with drawings, maybe? I cannot tell, but i built one a few years ago, and except the huge amount of deadly fight to make the Aires cockpit fit (amazing details, certainly one of their best one, but also one of their baddest fit ever) i really enjoyed this build. There are a few flaws, some soft panel lines, but it's mostly a very good kit in my opinion, and i was very satisfied accuracy-wise, though i'm not a specialist. However, i tried to stick the better i could to my reference pictures for the details and it looked correct. If it could help, there is a link in my signature to the RFI thread, and this last includes a link to the WIP (pictures hosted on PB, so you need the plugin to see the pictures). Compliance to drawings would be nice, but I found none, The dilemma is that I can get it for half of the retail price and I am still not sure. I measure everything next to Tamiya Mustang or ZM Ho-229 nowadays and am spoiled by such kits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmthamade Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 If your decision to buy or not is based on how a kit compares to the Tamiya kits, you may never buy another manufacturers kit. You'll miss out on some fine kits, though. Don LSP_K2, Youngtiger1, Bill Cross and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero77 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 What Jennings said. The Hasegawa kit for 1/6th the price can be turned into a stunner. The Italeri kit will be fine under camo but if your thinking of doing natural metal i woukd really go Hasegawa. Shape wise to my eye both are fine. If you remove the raised lines on the Has kit then multi panel paint it in metal it will look stunning. This build is stunning using the Hasegawa kit, buy yourself a burner can, a cockpit and your done. http://www.hyperscale.com/2009/galleries/f104g32pc_1.htm Italeri kit will give you a fine result for a much bigger price, it still needs a resin burner and cockpit plus if you intend natural metal the large panel lines will give yiu a huge job to make them look decent. Camo woukd be fine. Our regretted Paul Coudeyrette was a master, and he never used any airbrush. All of his models were paint brushed, and NMF done with Rub-n-buff. Gazzas, Lee White and Darren Howie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunwinglow Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 If a kit complies exactly with a set of scale plans, I would suggest all you have found is the set of plans the kit designer used to design his kit..... MikeC and Lee White 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menelaos Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) well my relation to the 1o4 is long and currently I don't have the Italeri kit yet . It's realy a nice kit and a big step forward, but I'm a bit dissapointed cause I expeteced better detail level in the consoles in the cockpit and here and there... in the 1:32 scale and with the technology we have I would like to see much more .... But oh well .... Edited November 16, 2017 by Menelaos Eagle Driver, LSP_K2 and Youngtiger1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) I have sold it and kept the Hasegawa kit (positive panel lines)....if you like the riveting game I suggest you to go for the japanese kit, otherwise go for the Italeri. Edited November 16, 2017 by Luca Eagle Driver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Here's our database entry for the kit in question. As you can see by some of the 16 linked examples, the Italeri kit can really look quite splendid. Luca, Rick Griewski and Eagle Driver 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloorwestSiR Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I built one last year. I enjoyed it enough that I picked another one up afterwards. Carl Zero77, Menelaos, LSP_K2 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Griewski Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I have and I really like both kits. I was able to find mucho resin for the Hasagawa kit over a few years for about 20 cents on the dollar. I pick up a tail pipe exhaust for the Italeri. That's about it. There is not a lot of wing or fuselage area for that matter to rescribe on the Hasagawa kit. The Italeri kit will end up with a camouflage scheme. Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasta 14 addict Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Don't know about the Hasegawa kit, didn't build any so i can not speak for it. regarding the Italeri kit, like i said before, it has it's issues, but nothing bad at all. With some extra work it build into a very nice model. Greetz Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Back to the original question in this thread, I haven't seen any review that talks about the dimensional accuracy of the Italeri kit (haven't seen any for the Hasegawa or Revell kits either). Based on the lack of comments, I'd assume that no one has an obvious issue with the shapes of the various kits. The rest seems to be the general Italeri vs Hasegawa slog, which is individual taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) Dave, F-104 shape is very simple, when I had in my hands the Italeri kit the first thing I did was trying to "match" the left fuselage with the side profile of Danny Coremans drawings (DACO) and there were no issues, only the radome was 2 mm too long Edited November 17, 2017 by Luca Rick Griewski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Driver Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 Dave, F-104 shape is very simple, when I had in my hands the Italeri kit the first thing I did was trying to "match" the left fuselage with the side profile of Danny Coremans drawings (DACO) and there were no issues, only the radome was 2 mm too long And this is where most people get aerodynamics wrong. It looks simple, true that. But it is far from it. Hence - making a properly looking 32nd scale kit is a challenge. Starfighter features gradual shapes and even though with minor curves it has to be correct to look properly. There was one useful thread I saw, where panels were described as wrong /not specified which/ and this is something that no resin cockpit or wheel bays will ever solve. So yeah. The question from the beginning might look simple, but it is not. Harold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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