Luca Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 have they ever been carried by F-4J on the inner wing pylons (with AIM-9D missiles onboard)? if yes, which squadrons? TIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 AFAIK the outboard pylons were never wired for AIMs, I could be wrong though. The USAF, F-4G was wired to carry ARMs on the outboard pylons but I do not think they were wired to carry AIMs on those stations. Barry Luca 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 The Mk-84 was too long to fit on the i/b pylons. Jari Luca 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Colvin Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 While on the topic of phantom pylons, and not to hijack,........Were the sidewinder launch rails shorter and flat across the back (not shaped). I thought that I saw Tamiya gives you a much later launch rail........On the flip side I may be loosing my mind. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 The Navy used the LAU-7 launcher while the AF used the Aero 3B rail which was flat at the back although the Navy did use the Aero 3 on earlier jets, Demon and F-8 to name a couple. Jari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Colvin Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 thanks so is it possible the aero 3 was on the navy jets in 1972? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 II'd say probably not, here is a F-8 that has both a Aero 3 and a LAU-7: http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/6ea44fa302f2dcea_large the pic is from the mid-60's so they were in the process of going to the LAU-7. Jari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) The Mk-84 was too long to fit on the i/b pylons. Jari so was this loadout table wrong? https://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/f-4/f-4j_loads.shtml it shows Mk.83/84 on stations 2/8 Edited March 24, 2017 by Luca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Colvin Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 got it.....thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 The Mk-84 with it's conical tail is too long to fit on the i/b pylon. However a LGB version with it's shorter tail could go on the pylon: Jari Luca 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefenders Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 If the pylon is fitted with a 30" suspension bomb rack, then it can carry a Mk-84. On our Harriers, we only had 14" suspension bomb racks, so no Mk-84s for us Luca 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 If the pylon is fitted with a 30" suspension bomb rack, then it can carry a Mk-84. any pic of this suspension rack? thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefenders Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) Luca, here are some pics of 14" and 30" bomb racks. Note 30" racks also have 14" suspension, so they can Mk-83/82/81, TERs, Rocket Pods...and anything else that requires 14" suspension. http://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=EBTHK%2fsX&id=83D132E62F19692B6CD8D06E04189FE3FBE865A2&q=f-4+phantom+bomb+ejector+racks&simid=608013911338780788&selectedIndex=31&ajaxhist=0 This link shows the F-4 inner pylon with rack. The inner hooks are for 14" suspension and the two outer are 30". For some reason I cant post the pic here. Edited March 24, 2017 by thefenders Luca 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 The Navy F-4, and early F-4C, had different i/b pylons, pics of the Navy type can be seen here: http://www.ipms.nl/walkarounds/walkaround-vliegtuigen-jets/542-walkaround-f4-phantom.html# a small adapter was added to the Navy pylon so stores could be loaded on them. Jari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 The USN inboard pylons were designed to carry a single AIM-7 and two AIM-9s to carry any other weapon required the adapter Jari is speaking of. Here are some pics of my efforts to properly configure the Tamiya pylons. Barry Luca 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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