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#1 thierry laurent

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 07:31 PM

Hi guys,

You will be happy to know that I ended the research activity for such birds. By far, this has been the most difficult topic on which I have worked. However, the activity was fruitful as I finally preselected at least 25 schemes notwithstanding some early grey birds! However, considering the number of planes with camo, I finally left the grey/white planes out of the scope.

I only have partial information for some nice schemes but more or less 20 out of the total are sufficiently covered to make decals...! Hopefully, one of the other guys helping Eli (Peter Davies?) May be able to plug holes here and there to increase the final amount of selected schemes.

I guess I could not give better news to you and Eli!

Cheers

Thierry
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Posted 08 April 2016 - 04:15 AM

OHHH!! Will there be markings for Bob Lodges ac?



#3 thierry laurent

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Posted 08 April 2016 - 08:05 AM

OHHH!! Will there be markings for Bob Lodges ac?

Yes Sir! OY coded 65-0784 F-4D is at least in my preselection.

I did my best to put the focus on either MiG killers, either planes with interesting art. I also added some plain schemes as I know some guys like to weather heavily the airframes. I also covered most bases: Korat, Ubon (FA,FG,FO,FP), Udorn (OC,OY), Cam Ranh (XC,XN,XT). Last, I also tried to cover most configurations including less common ones such as the D slick nose, LORAN, etc.

You should like it.

Thierry
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Posted 08 April 2016 - 09:43 AM

Before you ask why Phantoms based elsewhere such as Da Nang are not covered, I can tell the reason is simple: the available picture coverage is noticeably worse to give you enough info to rebuild a scheme.

I don't know if this was linked to local security reasons of the era but it is generally far more difficult to find pictures from bases in Vietnam than in Thailand.

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Posted 08 April 2016 - 10:01 AM

Well done Thierry - huge amount of work !

Have you been in touch with Don Logan ? He has hundreds (maybe more like a thousand) original kodachromes of Vietnam war birds. I managed to get the full crew names for two Korat Weasels via Don (the ones I drew for Gary's conversion set) and there were some spectacular images (sadly lost here when I had to reset the tablet)
He has shots of Cam R Bay and Da Nang jets with slick radomes etc etc but the most interesting are definitely the Ubon and Udorn jets.

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Posted 08 April 2016 - 10:07 AM

Thierry,

Any chances of getting any of the famous 'William Tell' schemes?

I remember doing some in 1/48th scale many years ago, also the 57th FIS 'Black Knights' markings from out of Kevlavik, Iceland. 

Just love those chequerboard stabs and fin!

What's not to love?

 

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Edited by Royboy, 09 April 2016 - 10:43 AM.

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Posted 08 April 2016 - 10:24 AM

O.k, I checked thru google images and I can't find the one I seem to remember.

The one in my mind has got a marking of an arrow going through an apple and it was on both sides of the fuse.

Confused? Maybe I am, but it WAS a very long time ago now. (gibber gibber lol)  :hmmm:


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Posted 08 April 2016 - 10:30 AM

So cool.....
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- Hasegawa Ki 44 Shoki
- Hasegawa F6F-5 Hellcat

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Posted 08 April 2016 - 11:31 AM

Well,

Eli asked me for putting the focus on SEA war planes. For other, postwar choices such as William Tell or Langley stripes ones, Eli will decide if he is willing to release additional sets.

With regard to Don Logan pictures, I don't know. I started on my own but as I wrote other guys like him or Peter Davies will possibly help in closing the gap. Wait and see.
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Posted 09 April 2016 - 10:41 AM

Thierry,
Any chances of getting any of the famous 'William Tell' schemes?
I remember doing some in 1/48th scale many years ago, also the 57th FIS 'Black Knights' markings from out of Kevlavik, Iceland.
Just love those chequerboard stabs and fin!

O.k, I checked thru google images and I can't find the one I seem to remember.
The one in my mind has got a marking of an arrow going through an apple and it was on both sides of the fuse.
Confused? Maybe I am, but it WAS a very long time ago now. (gibber gibber lol) :hmmm:


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(photo by Baldur Sveinsson, reproduced for educational purposes)

I have a half dozen or so original Ray Leader Kodachromes of these jets if anyone needs them to help design decals. I have done layered vector artwork for much of the insignia based on images provided by Baldur S., optimised for the 16473 grey birds, of which there was one F-4C...

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(photo by Baldur Sveinsson, reproduced for educational purposes)

These went to the Michigan ANG (having been supplanted by F-4Es) so were at NAS Keflavik for only three or so years. All great schemes. There's a Bicentennial one too.

IIRC Microscale did this in 1/48 about the time the Monogram F-4C/D came out, summer of 1980.

Tony

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Edited by Tony T, 09 April 2016 - 10:48 AM.

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Posted 09 April 2016 - 10:57 AM

Yep that's the kiddie Tony!

The all grey F-4E machines looked pretty nice too!

 

 

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Thanks for locating it, my memory wasn't quite as bad as I feared after 36 years!


Edited by Royboy, 09 April 2016 - 11:09 AM.

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Posted 09 April 2016 - 12:20 PM

Hey Thierry that is awesome news doing Bob Lodges aircraft!
He has been undeservedly ignored for years by decal manufacturers preferring to do single killers over a KIA triple Mig killer.
Hopefully you have room for Robin Olds Bolo aircraft and really looking forward to this sheet.
It's about time we got some early Mig Killers.
No idea why there where so few images shot by the USAF particularly of things like Bolo all I can think of is trying to keep a low profile.
Gladly a lot of the drivers like Robin Olds had there own cameras and the images are surfacing.
Awesome stuff!
There is some good Olds stuff up at the Fighter Pilot ato in Kolds Facebook page run by his daughter Christina..
Cheers

Edited by Darren Howie, 09 April 2016 - 12:27 PM.


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Posted 09 April 2016 - 12:24 PM

A set with this scheme and the Langley stripes birds would be a killer but it is up to Eli to decide if he is interested or not. He will be back soon and I'm sure he will quickly react.

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Posted 09 April 2016 - 12:26 PM

Hey Thierry that is awesome news doing Bob Lodges aircraft!
He has been undeservedly ignored for years by decal manufacturers preferring to do single killers over a KIA triple Mig killer.
Hopefully you have room for Robin Olds Bolo aircraft and really looking forward to this sheet.
It's about time we got some early Mig Killers.
No idea why there where so few images shot by the USAF particularly of things like Bolo all I can think of is trying to keep a low profile.
Gladly a lot of the drivers like Robin Olds had there own cameras and the images are surfacing.
Awesome stuff!


I put two Olds birds in the selection including the slick nose 680 bird ;-)

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Posted 09 April 2016 - 12:28 PM

I put two Olds birds in the selection including the slick nose 680 bird ;-)


Your a complete legend..if you need pics there is some I posted plus a few others on his Facebook page run by his daughter Christina.
Awesome stuff mate!




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