MustangManiac Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Hello everyone, I'm starting a new build and I'm wanting to do the captured paint scheme of Koga's Zero. I'm already messing up though I do think. I've tried two approaches to doing the Aotake blue-green and I don't think either looks good. The lighter one is by Model Master and is Japanese interior Blue. The other one I tried mixing the suggested colors Tamiya has in the manual and to me it looks too Blue in color. I know this subject has been beat to death on colors, but I'm not doing so hot here and remembering why I always stayed away from Japanese subjects. Here is what it looks like so far: Thanks, Brady Edited June 13, 2017 by MustangManiac tomv87 and mpk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Hi Brady, I used to be quite fond of Xtracolor's take on this paint, but my tin dried up after 15 years (who'd of thunk it?). So I tried spraying clear blue acrylic over a silver base coat, and quite liked the effect. Probably still a little too blue, but usable I think. I'll post a photo if I can find one. Kev geedubelyer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangManiac Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 Hi Kev, Does Xtracolor still make their version of this color or did they discontinue it? I'm just amazed at how many Zero kits there are and we still have to try and mix this color ourselves. I also noticed since I posted my first posting that for some odd reason Tamiya didn't give me the brown box with all its metal components and the cowling parts at all. I've never seen this in a Tamiya kit. So now I've got to try and contact them for a LOT of parts. Cheers, Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Does Xtracolor still make their version of this color or did they discontinue it? I'm really not sure, to be honest. Xtracolor paints are close to impossible to get here in Australia now (or practically anywhere outside the UK), so their version of that colour is just no longer an option for me. But in reality, it was a tinted clear coat, and varied quite dramatically in actual colour, and also changed with exposure to UV light. So I wouldn't be too fussy about trying to replicate an exact colour. Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdthoresen Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Brady- Check this article by Gregg Cooper out on how he reproduced Aotake on a Tamiya Gekko......Have done this before and it looks pretty convincing....a little labor intensive, but works well in my opinion......http://www.hyperscale.com/features/2001/gekkogc_1.htmHope this helps out-THOR tomv87 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick K Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) This has worked for my Aotake. Thank you Dave Johnson. Blue Aotake: Tamiya Clear Smoke 11 parts + Clear Blue 10 parts + Clear Green 1 part Thin and spray as you would a wash with multiple light passes on a silver base. I used Alclad Aircraft Aluminum. Keep passes uneven. Edited July 14, 2015 by Rick K Uncarina, Rick Griewski, tomv87 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Looks really great! Maybe its just the angle of that last pic, but did you cut off the roll over bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangManiac Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 I think I got a close enough mixture this morning with mixing Tamiya's Metallic Blue with Model Master's clear green. I didn't like mixing two different manufacturer's paints but it's what I had on hand. Here's what it looks like now: To answer your question Brian, no I didn't cut off the roll bar, it's just masked with tape so it stays green. Thanks for all the ideas guys. Cheers, Brady tomv87, andromeda673, Out2gtcha and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Good work Brady. That latest version of Aotake is actually pretty close to the Xtracolor version. Your first mix with the Tamiya acrylics is pretty close to what I get now. Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangManiac Posted July 15, 2015 Author Share Posted July 15, 2015 Thanks Kev! Now for another question. Did I paint Koga's Zero correctly so far or did I already mess up on what is and isn't supposed to be Aotake? I'm not sure but I think his was Mitsubishi. Any place to look up if it's a Mitsubishi or Nakajima built plane? Thanks in advance, Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.valdez Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Gunze has an F-15 interior blue/ green that is also a reasonable stand in for Aotake. Lazy man's solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangManiac Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 OK, thanks for another suggestion for Aotake. Does anyone have an answer for my question on determining if a Zero was made by Mitsubishi or Nakajima? Thanks, Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade rowlands Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Kogas Zero was a Type 21, all those were Mitsubishi built. That will also mean wheel wells and inner gear doors in the same colour as the underside camo. Engine cowl and decking behind the pilot will be Mitsubishi Blue/Black. Cockpit will be Mitsubishi Interior Green. Both available from Gunze Sangyo, though only in the Laquer type, Cowl colour is C125 and the cockpit Green is C126. tomv87 and mpk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangManiac Posted July 18, 2015 Author Share Posted July 18, 2015 Bummer! It looks like I didn't do enough research here from the beginning. I've already painted this one wrong as far as internal colors. It sounds like the only build on my "To Do" list this Nakajima color scheme works for is a Rufe or I just strip it and start over. Ade Rowlands thank you for the paint references. I ordered some for both manufacturers. When the wheel wells were painted by Mitsubishi did they paint the tail wheel well the exterior color too? Was anything painted Aotake by Mitsubishi other than the interior of the cowling and the rings around the engine itself? Flaps? Thanks, Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggernut Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Kogas Zero was a Type 21, all those were Mitsubishi built. That will also mean wheel wells and inner gear doors in the same colour as the underside camo. Engine cowl and decking behind the pilot will be Mitsubishi Blue/Black. Cockpit will be Mitsubishi Interior Green. Both available from Gunze Sangyo, though only in the Laquer type, Cowl colour is C125 and the cockpit Green is C126. No, Nakajima built the A6M2's as well as did Mitsubishi. If it's an early build, the only way to tell the difference is on the data plate on the fuselage. Later overall olive-grey Najajima built A6M2's will have a 75km white surround on the fuselage Hinomaru. tomv87 and mpk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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