Sparzanza Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 How does one do this without an airbrush, and without making it look stupid in the process? I've seen some people using some thinned black paint and just.. drag it out with a brush. This looks like crap to me. There must be some other way for us brush painters. I've found a good picture of exhaust stains on the side of a Hurricane with the help of the awesome BoB movie from 1969. I would like my Hurricane's stains to look similar. I assume the grey part is really old, while the black is fresh. So. How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 You can use pastels. Happy Modeling Mike Sparzanza 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinnfb Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Hi. Tamiya makes weathering master set. A powdered pigments that you can apply with sponge or q-tip. Years ago i use to use just a regular chalk( artistic pastel) . Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinnfb Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) something like this Edited September 7, 2013 by Martinnfb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinnfb Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) While ago when I did not have an airbrush i use to simulate the sprayed demarcation lines with the very same technique. It worked on armor as well. http://www.missing-lynx.com/gallery/small/t62_mhatala.html Edited September 7, 2013 by Martinnfb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoogsATX Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Pigments work very well Sparzanza 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superfly Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Take an ordinary pencil...scrape the graphite with your blade/knife onto a piece of paper....use an appropiate size brush...load it with graphite filings and dry brush....very easy to control...you can control how dark you want it....seal after. It also looks good for "dirtying up" the cockpit area without overdoing it....get darker graphite for exhaust stains...more silver graphite for exposed metal look its also cheap. Sparzanza 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparzanza Posted September 7, 2013 Author Share Posted September 7, 2013 Thanks everyone for your replies. I should have mentioned that I needed a poor man's alternative. The Tamiya pigment thingies seems very interesting though, so I will save up for that. Perhaps I can afford it later this month. In the meantime I will try superfly's technique. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoogsATX Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Only problem with pencil graphite (which I love) is that it can look metallic, which you don't necessarily want for exhaust stains. You may want to rundown a set of charcoal pencils (cheap at any art/hobby supply store) and use those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparzanza Posted September 7, 2013 Author Share Posted September 7, 2013 I've used pencils for panel lines on my 1/24 Airfix Stuka. The metallic look will disappear once a coat of matte varnish has been applied. I just tried superfly's technique on a silver 1:72 scale P51. It's a crappy model because it was painted with Humbrol Acrylics included in that giftset, so it's a good experiment platform. I had problems getting the fragments to even stick to the brush, and even so it took many attempts to get it sort of visible behind the exhausts, sadly. Maybe because it's a silver painted plane. It worked a treat for the gun stains though, but only because I drew actual lines from the openings and across the wing, and then rubbed the lines out until they were barely visible. While it may look alright on such a small scale, I'm not sure how it will work on a 1/24 scale Hurricane. More experimenting to be done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superfly Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Doogs is absolutely correct charcoal would be better for exhaust stains...I was trying to be......cost effective lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csavaglio Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Back before pigments became more commercially widespread, I used to use artist's pastel chalks ground up using sandpaper. You'd only need a few colors to get anything you'd need for exhaust/guns stains.....black, white, brown.....then mix the powders to the shades needed. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparzanza Posted September 7, 2013 Author Share Posted September 7, 2013 As it happens my brother is an artist. He uses both pencils and charcoal. I'm sure he'll give me some. This is what he can do with charcoal.. http://art1fact.deviantart.com/art/Happy-face-128729844 So maybe he can do something with my Hurri's exhausts as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee White Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 The black stains are soot, while the gray areas are lead deposits from the fuel, IIRC. It' not one color being older than the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparzanza Posted September 7, 2013 Author Share Posted September 7, 2013 The black stains are soot, while the gray areas are lead deposits from the fuel, IIRC. It' not one color being older than the other. Well I guess I do learn something new every day. Thanks for the heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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