Patrick HMD Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I like the idea of a darker shade of OD. Just add a bit of black. Or if it's green you want, how about a dark pullman green. I think either one of those would work for a dark contrasting color. Just make sure that your base color is a wee bit on the light side. Best regards Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Hi Tom I'm interested in where you obtained this information about use of RAF Green in place of Med. Green 42. New documentation is always appreciated. Cheers, D.B. I'm not certain is was necessarily RAF Dark Green that was used for the blotches (I think that was suggested in the post below mine) but I read somewhere that RAF paint stocks were often used when the blotches were applied in the field upon arrival in the UK. Now where I read it can't recall - it may have been in one of the Roger Freeman 8th AF books - I've got literally hundreds of publications on the B-17 so will have to get searching. I recall reading that when the order to apply the blotches came through, US supplies of paints were not readily available and hence it was a case of grab what you could - I imagine there was quite a variation in greens used until regular stocks were established. I'll see if I can find the reference but am in the middle of packing my books up as am about to move house so it may be a while! D.B. Andrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 A USN vet I talked to said the "medium blue" used on aircraft was mixed using the TLAR method (That Looks About Right) and there was often a lot of variety in the hues as a result. Add weathering, sun, etc. and things are not as monochromatic as we'd like to think. Cheers, Tim W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I'm not certain is was necessarily RAF Dark Green that was used for the blotches (I think that was suggested in the post below mine) but I read somewhere that RAF paint stocks were often used when the blotches were applied in the field upon arrival in the UK. Now where I read it can't recall - it may have been in one of the Roger Freeman 8th AF books - I've got literally hundreds of publications on the B-17 so will have to get searching. I recall reading that when the order to apply the blotches came through, US supplies of paints were not readily available and hence it was a case of grab what you could - I imagine there was quite a variation in greens used until regular stocks were established. I'll see if I can find the reference but am in the middle of packing my books up as am about to move house so it may be a while! In some cases they used the RAF dark green to paint entire aircraft--like the P-51s of the 354th Fighter Group right before D-Day so it's possible. tomprobert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B. Andrus Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I'm not certain is was necessarily RAF Dark Green that was used for the blotches (I think that was suggested in the post below mine) but I read somewhere that RAF paint stocks were often used when the blotches were applied in the field upon arrival in the UK. Now where I read it can't recall - it may have been in one of the Roger Freeman 8th AF books - I've got literally hundreds of publications on the B-17 so will have to get searching. I recall reading that when the order to apply the blotches came through, US supplies of paints were not readily available and hence it was a case of grab what you could - I imagine there was quite a variation in greens used until regular stocks were established. I'll see if I can find the reference but am in the middle of packing my books up as am about to move house so it may be a while! Many thanks for the reply, Tom. Whenever convenient, I look forward to what you find. Cheers, D.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcben80 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Hello all, So, last time I spoke with the folks at Free Time Hobbies (placed a pre-order through them a while back), I was told that the kit was expected to ship at the end of August. Well, needless to say, August has come and gone. Has anyone heard anything further about an updated ETA? Trying my best to be patient but really looking forward on getting my hands on this one! Cheers, Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nichenson Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I have heard late September into October from other sellers. I would actually dare say November at the earliest, but that is me basing on previous releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggernut Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 There are many reference books on the B-17 but not one (or even two) definitive works on it. What I've found best is to use the tech manuals and contemporary photographs for details and use published references for markings, history, (and corroboration of detail), etc. Even then you'll need an abundance of material to get all the information you're looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis7423 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 According to their Facebook page on Sept. 16th, the decals and instructions are in. Just waiting on packaging apparently. Release seems immanent. - Dennis S. Westminster, CO USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I had thought about getting one as I really like the "F" with the "G" type cheek guns on the nose but, going by photos, I don't think that option is provided. Hopefully I'm wrong. However (and this is a BIG however) I see where the price is in the very high 200 to low 300 range which is a heck of a lot. I'd need to really augment my PayPal account!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nichenson Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I had thought about getting one as I really like the "F" with the "G" type cheek guns on the nose but, going by photos, I don't think that option is provided. Hopefully I'm wrong. However (and this is a BIG however) I see where the price is in the very high 200 to low 300 range which is a heck of a lot. I'd need to really augment my PayPal account!! What you are referring to is an early production G. That version is supposed to be released sometime in the future. From what I gathered they were hoping to put it in this go around but all of the extra E/F parts prohibit it. If you are willing to wait which I hope isn't too long you should have what you want. In the meantime you can get the E/F and make a rather nice plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 What you are referring to is an early production G. That version is supposed to be released sometime in the future. From what I gathered they were hoping to put it in this go around but all of the extra E/F parts prohibit it. If you are willing to wait which I hope isn't too long you should have what you want. In the meantime you can get the E/F and make a rather nice plane. Interesting. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CATCplSlade Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Same here. And oh how I want a Liberator... You and me both, pal. But according to Jennings, no, we can't have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaninaustria Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 HKM should do the B-24, a basic fuselage with a crap-load of options to build many different versions! A B-24 über kit! Forget what Jennings says - he's a Trump supporter by the sounds of it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowen Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 HKM should first do a Martin B-26 Marauder. It's the most neglected plane of the war. THEN a B-24..... -Ro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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