Artful69 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 (edited) Rog: The stuff may be hard to see but there's two things that make us do it right... One, we know it's in there and two; those pesky IPMS judges will undoubtedly shine their flashlight (torches to you guys of the UK, Emerald Isle area) and it had better be in there and be painted. There's one more tidbit: Since this fortress has staggered waist windows, the right side window will show much more of the ball turret area than would otherwise be seen with unstaggered waist windows. ... Ahhhh Tim ... I WAS forgetting about competition!!! sorry . For us humble types who build purely for enjoyment - and having a decorative piece on display at home, it could go either way! "Torches" works for us in Australia too! ... having said that - it IS an accuracy issue - but one that can be fixed without anywhere near as much drama as the nose area. Rog Edited August 12, 2013 by Artful69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggernut Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 (edited) Ooops, Forgot about you fellers down under...Apologies! I'm looking in to what kind of ball turret was installed in the B-17G. The Illustrated Parts Catalog calls out two, the Sperry A2 and the Sperry A2A. What the differences are I do not know but I'm gonna find out. I do know that at least one style of ball turret on the 17 did not have external ammo cans but I cannot say whether that holds true for either the A2 or the A2A. I have a sneaking suspicion that lacking any photographic proof, the ball turrets with the external ammo containers were used on B-24's but again, I have no data or photographs to support or refute my suspicion. EDIT: Sent a request for a Technical Manual to the National Air and Space Museum regarding the Sperry Ball turret used on the 17 and 24. Edited August 12, 2013 by TimC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 [...] flashlight (torches to you guys of the UK, Emerald Isle area) [...] And Australia Tim! Kev nmayhew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 And Australia Tim! Kev Ah, I see Rog already beat me to it. Kev Artful69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artful69 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Ah, I see Rog already beat me to it. Kev ... lol Kev ... you're quicker when it comes to asking for boxart! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krow113 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I'm glad to see the 'issues' in this kit are miniscule enough to be pretty much easily fixable , if not dismiss-able. D.B. Andrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artful69 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I'm glad to see the 'issues' in this kit are miniscule enough to be pretty much easily fixable , if not dismiss-able. ... well ... easily dismissable by someone like me ... anyone who looks at my finished work is not really liable to tell an 'F' from a 'G' anyway ... But for someone like Tim, who enters into competitions, no so much! The inside issues probably won't phase him ... but for something so obvious as the nose/canopy/cockpit (and he IS technically correct about the shape), I doubt this would be classed as minor in a comp setting - neither is it easily fixable, I'd say! At any rate ... I'm not going to bother trying ... as long as I can get hold of some good, sturdy AM landing gear and some brass barrels - it's all good in my world! Rog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artful69 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 ... Ooops, Forgot about you fellers down under ... ... don't worry Tim ... most usually do!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krow113 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 ... well ... easily dismissable by someone like me ... anyone who looks at my finished work is not really liable to tell an 'F' from a 'G' anyway ... But for someone like Tim, who enters into competitions, no so much! The inside issues probably won't phase him ... but for something so obvious as the nose/canopy/cockpit (and he IS technically correct about the shape), I doubt this would be classed as minor in a comp setting - neither is it easily fixable, I'd say! At any rate ... I'm not going to bother trying ... as long as I can get hold of some good, sturdy AM landing gear and some brass barrels - it's all good in my world! Rog Accuracy issues have no bearing in model competitions , they are about modelling not accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krow113 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Why would you need "sturdy" aftermarket landing gear? I've been building, buying, and looking at models for nigh on 45 years, and I can probably count on the fingers of one hand with a couple left over the number of models standing on styrene gear legs that collapsed from the weight of the model itself. The gear legs in the HK kit are nothing if not beefy. How about resin lg? I have the Verlinden set for my 1/48 B-17 and I was worried about them after the p/e and scratch building was installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpowder Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Mines quite a way along now , and yes you can see the ball turret mount through the stb window. They also dont tell you to fit any seats in the radio compartment , but they are on the sprues. Other than that its been a nice build. Im not sure how accurate the chin turret is. It does not have the little square windows in the back , instead it has slots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nigelr32 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Mines quite a way along now , and yes you can see the ball turret mount through the stb window. They also dont tell you to fit any seats in the radio compartment , but they are on the sprues. Other than that its been a nice build. Im not sure how accurate the chin turret is. It does not have the little square windows in the back , instead it has slots. PICTURES PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 PICTURES PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!! Here you go Nige: http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?showtopic=46004 Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squito2340 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 So good people. Wild it be possible to have a photo archive like the ju88 on this forum....? Just asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormer Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 So good people. Wild it be possible to have a photo archive like the ju88 on this forum....? Just asking. My thoughts exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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