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#1 Marcel111

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 05:04 PM

Chuck just convinced me to hang out a little more on LSP, so here is the opening of my next project, a Heater-Ferris Phantom!

This is the exact aircraft I will be building:
http://www.cloud9pho...ale/i-wp7R4Zs/A

... although I will load her up heavily with the LAU-10's and Mk.20's as already prepared in my now defunct F-4J build. There are some nice pics on the web showing VMFA-112 jets flying with live Mk-82's to the bomb range, so I think it's not too much of a stretch to really load this F-4 up:
http://smg.photobuck...mb_Run.jpg.html

Before starting construction, I thought I'd start a little storm in a teacup by hypothesizing that much of the common knowledge of Heater-Ferris F-4S colors is somewhat wrong. Here is what I mean (original pic is from Wikipedia and has no apparent copyright):
F-4S_Phantoms_Naval_Reserve_1983%20-%20C

I have spent many, many hours looking at Heater-Ferris Phantom pics and at this stage am pretty sure of the above, that is that the "mirror image" of the standard F-4 Heater-Ferris scheme used slightly darker blue-grays (the lighter grays are consistent).

This is a good overview of the Heater-Ferris scheme on VMFA-112:
http://www.cybermode...4_profile06.png

I will be doing "03" and not "04", there are minor differences on the camo boundaries between the two. And as noted above, I believe the color designations are slightly off on the above drawings (should be FS35109, FS35164, FS36307 & FS36375 from left to right in the top view), including the colors of the intake-side stars & bars and intake warnings (should be FS36307 and not FS36375 at least for "03").

In other Phantom news, I really like what Scale Aircraft Modelling did with their March cover:
sam-38-01%20low%20res_zpskzspbrtc.jpg

Since it's my Chico I'm very partial to the cover anyway, but the SAM guys very much make things come alive imo.

Much more to follow.

Marcel


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Posted 25 February 2016 - 05:14 PM

Welcome to LSP Buddy!  I think you'll really like it here and your modeling skills will be very well received.

 

Also, again Congrat's on the cover of SAM!  That is always a very gratifying feeling when you see your work on the front cover of a modeling magazine.

 

Looking forward to the F-4S build,

 

Chuck


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Posted 25 February 2016 - 08:17 PM

Hi Marcel,

Good to see you building over here. I look forward to your "Pherris F-4".

 

If the schemes were applied anything like the ones that were applied later to F-15s then the colour palette was mixed up between airframes.

 

On the Eagles, there were four aircraft but no two wore the same shades in the same places if I recall.

Perhaps that idea began with the Phantoms?

 

Cheers.


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Posted 26 February 2016 - 02:16 AM

Congrats on your SAM cover, Marcel! Looks a terrific build. Good luck with this one, too, and thanks sharing it with us.

 

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 03:33 AM

A big warm welcome!!!
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Posted 26 February 2016 - 10:06 AM

Marcel,

 

'Chico the Gunfighter'  ..Ah what a wonderful build that was Marcel. :bow:

 

I recall following that build over on the other forum.. :D

 

Congratulations Marcel on getting the front page..Bravo.. :clap2: :clap2:

 

I look forward very much to your Phantom build on here .. Good luck and nice to see you here . :clap2:


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Posted 26 February 2016 - 11:27 AM

glad you choose to post here (nothing against ARC, but this is home)


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Posted 26 February 2016 - 01:30 PM

Big thx for all the welcoming words, guys!

Hi Marcel,

Good to see you building over here. I look forward to your "Pherris F-4".

 

If the schemes were applied anything like the ones that were applied later to F-15s then the colour palette was mixed up between airframes.

 

On the Eagles, there were four aircraft but no two wore the same shades in the same places if I recall.

Perhaps that idea began with the Phantoms?

 

Cheers.

 

Guy, it's great to chat again!

 

The F-4S Heater-Ferris schemes are a lot more consistent, I believe. There seems to be the "standard" scheme, as worn by VF-301, a mirror-image of the standard scheme (as described above), and then a few other variations, but they generally always used the same patter with mostly the same colors, they just mixed up which colors went where.

 

Cheers,

 

Marcel


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Posted 26 February 2016 - 03:34 PM

Hi Marcel,

 

This will be an interesting project to follow. Not much "love" out there for the F-4S, so its nice to see somebody do one. My former boss at Gulfstream commanded VMFA-115 at Beaufort and really liked it.

 

My Friend John Lawler flew with "Heater" Heatley in VF-74. I'll have to mention this to him. I was planning on eventually getting round to doing an F-4J for John anyway....

 

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 09:08 PM


Hi Marcel,

 

This will be an interesting project to follow. Not much "love" out there for the F-4S, so its nice to see somebody do one. My former boss at Gulfstream commanded VMFA-115 at Beaufort and really liked it.

 

My Friend John Lawler flew with "Heater" Heatley in VF-74. I'll have to mention this to him. I was planning on eventually getting round to doing an F-4J for John anyway....

 

-d-

I would be tickled, to say the least, if "Heater" Heatley got to see this build!

 

Anyhow, I haven't shown any building on this thread, so here goes. This Marine S will be loaded somewhat similar to the VMFA-112 shown doing the bomb run above, in that it will carry a centerline external tank and four TERs. From there on things get more interesting though, this will be one fire-breathing, all round bad a** jet, since it will carry six LAU-10's on the inside TERs and four Mk.20 Rockeyes on the outside TERs. Before you say whoa there, that's way over the top, there are records out there of VMFA-334 flying missions over Vietnem with their F-4Js loaded up with six LAU-10s and six (centerline mounted) Mk.20s (plus two wing tanks).

 

Here is some progress on the loadout, I did this two years ago when this was supposed to turn into an F-4J (I posted this on ARC two years ago so apologies if this is old news). For the LAU-10s, I am using the Fisher models launchers while making the rockets myself. A nice coincidence is that 5" translates into exactly 4mm in 32nd scale, so I could use 4mm brass tubing for the outside section of the rocket. Next, I had to deduct some of the angles of the Zuni rockets I am trying to replicate.

 

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Next off, I went to the prototyping shop which is fairly close to my office and I do my utmost to maintain good relations to:

 

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And abracadabra, here are 24 nicely shaped Zunis:

 

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I'll post next steps soon.

 

Thx for looking,

 

Marcel


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Posted 26 February 2016 - 10:20 PM

Really nice work Marcel, great to see you posting regularly on LSP.  :goodjob:



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Posted 27 February 2016 - 03:44 PM

Email sent to Heater. I included a link to the project. Fingers crossed!!

 

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 03:53 PM



Hi Marcel,

 

This will be an interesting project to follow. Not much "love" out there for the F-4S, so its nice to see somebody do one. My former boss at Gulfstream commanded VMFA-115 at Beaufort and really liked it.

 

My Friend John Lawler flew with "Heater" Heatley in VF-74. I'll have to mention this to him. I was planning on eventually getting round to doing an F-4J for John anyway....

 

-d-

 

 

I remember that name, because years ago I made a Bi-Centennial F-4J that had Chuck Heatley's name on it.  The problem was, the CAM decal instructions had him sitting in the back as a RIO!  My guess is that "John Koch" should be sitting in the back seat instead.


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Posted 27 February 2016 - 04:25 PM

Super work.

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 04:57 PM

I DO wanna build a VF-74 Spook in Bicentennial markings for Big John.....

 

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