T-6G Matra Pods?

[ZachP319]

Does anyone have good pics of the Matra rocket packs used on French and Portuguese Texans?

 

Web searches have turned little up and I am highly suspicious of the one provided by Kittyhawk.

 

What I have found shows rocket noses protruding and the KH part has completely recessed rocket noses that do not protrude.

 

Any assistance would appreciated.

 

Thanks

 

Zach

[thierry laurent]

I have to check in my French T-6 doc but keep in mind a launcher can store various types of rockets of different lengths.

[TonyT]

 

 

Proud and flush above, different diameters

 

Flush

 

 

 

lot more

 

http://nunosflyingmachines.com/year_2014/MuseuAr/MuseuAr_page_2.php

 

If you do them flush its right on both accounts, as it shows it after firing the rockets for the images were they are proud

Edited August 15, 2017 by TonyT

[Guest Vincent]

Hi

 

French T6G used 2 models of pods :

 

one Matra with 18 rockets 37mm and another Matra with 7 rockets 68mm.

 

The 37mm rockets were totally enclosed in the pod while the 68mm had their warheads out

 

Here's one picture of the 18 x 37mm

 

and the 7 x 68mm

[Guest Vincent]

You can see how the pod looks like here : http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-S9NzGeBCF9M/UjWRsggnJoI/AAAAAAAAAOs/sB7CxiwG40c/s1600/fouga_aseet.png

 

Kittyhawk gives obviously a 7 x 68mm pod which should be either empty or have the rocket heads out

[Finn]

The rocket motors are the same size, just different warheads added to the length, a 6lb HE is smaller so it wouldn't stick out of the pod while a 10lb HE one is longer and thus sticks out.  Here are a few examples of 2.75" rockets but the principal is the same: 

 

http://combatace.com/uploads/monthly_08_2015/post-15260-0-38264400-1438886842.jpg

 

Jari

[Guest Clunkmeister]

Cool stuff!

[Guest Vincent]

The rocket motors are the same size, just different warheads added to the length, a 6lb HE is smaller so it wouldn't stick out of the pod while a 10lb HE one is longer and thus sticks out.  Here are a few examples of 2.75" rockets but the principal is the same: 

 

http://combatace.com/uploads/monthly_08_2015/post-15260-0-38264400-1438886842.jpg

 

Jari

 

Hi Jari

 

The T6G was certified only with one type of HE SNEB rocket. All T6G with the 7 rocket pod used the same rockets. The warhead was the "type 26P HE Frag"

 

Rocket motor was 586mm long and the war head 482mm, making a ready to fire rocket 1.5m

 

Found a pic of the rocket (the green one on top of the photo) :

 

During the algerian war, the tip was natural brass

Edited August 15, 2017 by Vincent/MDC

[ZachP319]

Thanks all that was super helpful. I guess I am going to look at adding warheads to the KH parts. Shocker that they got that wrong. I would say they were expended pods but they clearly molded warheads recessed in the launch tubes as if they were flush. 

 

Zach

[Finn]

Strange they would only have one type of warhead but if that is all they needed. Here is a drawing of the Type 26P warhead:

 

http://ordata.info/img/images/F3238UL002.jpg

 

Also go here:

 

http://ordata.info/

 

click on Name of Ordnance and type in:

 

68-mm

 

and you'll get several rocket motors and more warhead options.

 

Jari

[Guest Vincent]

Strange they would only have one type of warhead but if that is all they needed. Here is a drawing of the Type 26P warhead:

 

http://ordata.info/img/images/F3238UL002.jpg

 

Also go here:

 

http://ordata.info/

 

click on Name of Ordnance and type in:

 

68-mm

 

and you'll get several rocket motors and more warhead options.

 

Jari

 

Strange they would only have one type of warhead but if that is all they needed. Here is a drawing of the Type 26P warhead:

 

http://ordata.info/img/images/F3238UL002.jpg

 

Also go here:

 

http://ordata.info/

 

click on Name of Ordnance and type in:

 

68-mm

 

and you'll get several rocket motors and more warhead options.

 

Jari

 

At that time the other 68mm warhead available to the french air force was the antitank and the smoke one, both useless on the missions that the T6 was doing. Other heavier rockets were used in caves for example but fired mostly by Skyraiders and F4U-7 Corsairs. The T6 coulf of course carry a couple of these (T10 type) but it was not a good platform for that