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#271 Peterpools

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:31 PM

Thanks Don, much appreciated

Seems frustration is my middle name these days and it's time to move forward and get building

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:36 PM

HI Dennis

Very much appreciated. I'm kind of in the middle but absolutely leaning m,ore towards the clean approach. ZM announced that their FW190 would be both a SMS and a Basic kit but I have no idea what that means. Would the Basic kit be the same fuselage as the SMS kit but with out a lot of the details or a entirely new and cleaner fuselage and wings? I'm always in favor of a detailed front office and engine(s) with the cowlings on or off and maybe maybe a the same for the MG's but nothing more.

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:39 PM

JA

I like the idea of the basic kit but not too basic. I always prefer a detailed front office and engine(s) and it should be up to the builder for viewing but removable panels everywhere - not my style.

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:45 PM

Hi Chris 

Thank you so much for the compliments and we are absolutely on the same page. I never mind spending the money for a kit as the enjoyment and satisfaction is the true plus of the build. What bothers me is the sheer amount of work required to keep cleaning everything up and then stumbling through the instructions. I should have included a few images of some of the major parts prior to clean up - might just do that as I approach the next set of assemblies - the wings.

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:57 PM

Hi Tom

Thank yo so much for the compliments on the Owl. I read your comments on Zoukei Mura latest kits and all I wanted to do is shout out; Way to go! :frantic:

Not having purchased either of their newer kits, I really had no first hand knowledge of the improvements and strides they have made in addressing the short comings of their earlier kits. It is wonderful to read that ZM has listen to the builders of their kits and taken the criticism as constructive and then raised the bar. I tip my cap to ZM as such actions are not often seen.

I only wish you would have jumped in and brought this to my attention earlier, as now I feel rather foolish on some of my comments. Now that the issues have been addressed, it's back to the build with a new positive attitude and determination.

Peter


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Posted 21 March 2017 - 01:57 AM

Peter,

Please do not feel foolish in any way. Yours is an educated perspective: you are the one building the kit, so you have boots on the ground!

Cheers, Tom
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Posted 21 March 2017 - 09:33 AM

Coming along nicely Pete!
Cheers
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Posted 21 March 2017 - 09:37 AM

Fantastic detail painting, Peter.

 

Sincerely,

Mark


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Posted 21 March 2017 - 04:53 PM

JA

I like the idea of the basic kit but not too basic. I always prefer a detailed front office and engine(s) and it should be up to the builder for viewing but removable panels everywhere - not my style.

Bro

 

Bro,

 It's my understanding after reading a lot of the "Old Man's " blogs on the ZM site, that the basic class of kit will be just that. I got the general feeling that what would be cut down or even better eliminated, is all the internal not seen details. I would hope that it also means less to none of the access panels opened up. Those kind of differences from their top of the line would require completely new molds for most of the sprues, so we're talking basically a new kit offering.

 

  Still, the concept of the basic kit would be at a different price point, and appeal to a different type of modeler, so ZM would be now addressing a secondary market, which could very well become their main market for those that can't or don't want to spend north of $100, and/or spend many hours working on details that they prefer weren't part of the kits construction. 

 

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 09:55 PM

Lovely work Peter, very interesting reading your thoughts on the ZM offering. I have often wondered about buying one of there kits but always decided against as they seem way over complicated for my skill set.

 

Great work and coming along ral nice.

 

Regards. Andy


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Posted 22 March 2017 - 01:21 AM

Peter, I'm just catching up on your progress. The cockpit looks fantastic as does the cannon bay. It's one of the areas that I'm thinking of leaving open on my build so yours give me a good idea of what it'll look like.

With your comments about the heavy mould parting lines, I'm wondering if maybe there was a production issue? It's been a while since I looked at my copy but I don't recall them being that pronounced. I'll have to break it out and see.

ZM does seem to be a company that listens to feedback though. They've gone from their multi coloured plastic of their initial releases to a single colour and they supposedly even re-tooled their Ta152 a bit to improve the sharpness of the details.

Hopefully the building experience improves from here for you.

Carl
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 02:28 AM

I personally like the ZM kits and I don't mind having a few pitfalls here and there. Two considerations that I see has been overlooked in the comparison between "the Big T" and ZM, KH, etc. is length of time in business and sheer volume of production. Tamiya has a vast line of products of which plastic models is a minor part, and 1/32 an even smaller niche. They do a huge amount of injection molding (probably most if not all in-house) and I'm sure they have engineers on staff whose sole job is mold engineering. Having dabbled in that a few years ago I can attest to how incredibly hard it is to get right! A CAD plug-in module cannot come close. Almost all new manufacturers botch there first few kits, but most learn and their products improve over time. I have faith in the small guys that they will succeed if we recognize this. 

 

Small firms like ZM, KH and HK just don't have the volume or product line size to justify the specialized staff. As they grow those specialties come in house. Another issue is farming out the mold cutting and injection itself. It's darn hard to justify the expenditure of that type of equipment. Just like most other businesses there's a crossover point where they can be brought in-house but until that point is reached they are at the mercy of third party vendors.

 

The open panel/closed up argument is a personal choice. True, a less costly example like Hasegawa is a nice option (I chose the ZM Raiden over the Hasegawa - personal choice even though I will probably close it all up) but I am just jazzed that we are seeing the volume of new products being released in 1/32 (and 1/24).

 

All that having been said, nice build! I've got the Uhu in the stash too.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark


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Posted 22 March 2017 - 04:15 AM

Umm, Zoukei Mura are HUGE, just not in the way you think. ZM is owned by Volks, they started in resin kit manufacture, specifically around anime characters (heavily biased towards female subjects). In saying that, I have their resin kit of 1/6 Kaneda's bike from the movie Akira along with a few of their character kits.

 

If you dare, Google "Dollfie".


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Posted 22 March 2017 - 07:04 AM

Nice work as usual Peter,

Have you decided on the color scheme for your UHU?

How about the machine in the Steven Udvar-Hazy museum?

Watching you work your magic again!

Best wishes with the build,

P-t
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 07:22 AM

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